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		<title>By: So NOW He&#8217;s Listening &#187; Comments From Left Field</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator>So NOW He&#8217;s Listening &#187; Comments From Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The number of troops to be withdrawn is uncertain, but given that Patreaus predicts the necessity of the surge until Summer of next year, it is likey that the number to be decided upon will be in the neighborhood of 4000 that has already been turning the rumor mills. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The number of troops to be withdrawn is uncertain, but given that Patreaus predicts the necessity of the surge until Summer of next year, it is likey that the number to be decided upon will be in the neighborhood of 4000 that has already been turning the rumor mills. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um... was there a point buried in all that invective in there?

Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230; was there a point buried in all that invective in there?</p>
<p>Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3338</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Krugman is Juan Cole without brains or local knowledge.  It&#039;s hard to take the latest Dhimmicrat salvos that &quot;we&#039;re losing, we&#039;re losing and we have the statistics to prove it&quot; as anything more than self-parody.  The smart Democrats are discussing strategy while libtards such as Reid and Shumer do their Tweedledumb/dumber pas de deux.

Ralph Peters has a good analysis, as does Michael Gordon, two observers with extensive published analysis and experience on the ground.  They both concur that the inside-the-Beltway flimflammery by and among Democrats reflects their own tendency toward suicidal eating of their young.  

The liberal memes are so tired that Sen. Durbin has to come back from Iraq and after saying the surge is beginning to work, suddenly &quot;change his mind&quot; and say it isn&#039;t working at all.

Remember poor George Romney in the sixties who confessed that he had been brainwashed?  At least GR had a brain to wash, most Democrats are &quot;passionate, vibrant, robust&quot; opponents of Iraq, until they go there.  Then they recant for a minute, unless like IL dodette Schakovsky they are retarded imbecilic Marxists.  And then, after what gray matter they have has been washed, laundered and folded by their political commissars &amp; media minders, they unrecant.  

The Democrats keep alternating between stand-up comics and fall-down slapstick----both very entertaining if very irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Krugman is Juan Cole without brains or local knowledge.  It&#8217;s hard to take the latest Dhimmicrat salvos that &#8220;we&#8217;re losing, we&#8217;re losing and we have the statistics to prove it&#8221; as anything more than self-parody.  The smart Democrats are discussing strategy while libtards such as Reid and Shumer do their Tweedledumb/dumber pas de deux.</p>
<p>Ralph Peters has a good analysis, as does Michael Gordon, two observers with extensive published analysis and experience on the ground.  They both concur that the inside-the-Beltway flimflammery by and among Democrats reflects their own tendency toward suicidal eating of their young.  </p>
<p>The liberal memes are so tired that Sen. Durbin has to come back from Iraq and after saying the surge is beginning to work, suddenly &#8220;change his mind&#8221; and say it isn&#8217;t working at all.</p>
<p>Remember poor George Romney in the sixties who confessed that he had been brainwashed?  At least GR had a brain to wash, most Democrats are &#8220;passionate, vibrant, robust&#8221; opponents of Iraq, until they go there.  Then they recant for a minute, unless like IL dodette Schakovsky they are retarded imbecilic Marxists.  And then, after what gray matter they have has been washed, laundered and folded by their political commissars &amp; media minders, they unrecant.  </p>
<p>The Democrats keep alternating between stand-up comics and fall-down slapstick&#8212;-both very entertaining if very irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: xranger</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3336</link>
		<dc:creator>xranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how the Petraeus report was possited that it would not be on the level - everything I read by people who know him is how straightforward he is. My assumption is that its the Dem lynch mob that pollutes the water here.

Congress has to ask the tough questions at the hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how the Petraeus report was possited that it would not be on the level &#8211; everything I read by people who know him is how straightforward he is. My assumption is that its the Dem lynch mob that pollutes the water here.</p>
<p>Congress has to ask the tough questions at the hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3329</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s good reason to undermine Patraeus when you think it&#039;s not going to be on the level, and I expect them to at least ask hard questions which is good, and what I think you would expect of any legislator asked to evaluate the performance of just about anything.

Impeachment is only silly talk because legislators are unwilling to do it.  That&#039;s about it.  I mean, did you know you can impeach people after they already left office?  I think something should be done to this current administration if for no other reason than to serve as a message to future administrations that there are limits.

Unfortunately, those limits have long since been passed without any kind of reproachment, and so that&#039;s out the window I suppose.

As for the military being inferior, look, I don&#039;t defend Reid anymore.  In fact one of my last posts about the man was me saying that I can&#039;t shill for everything he does and says anymore.  I think he&#039;s a terrible Majority Leader, a fact that is evidenced by, among other things, the simple existence of caucus fractures within the party.  One thing that has severely hurt the Dems is the inability of Reid to get them voting as a unit, something the GOP is excellent at doing.

Instead, Reid&#039;s MO appears to be talking tough, introducing tough legislation, but then not really working too terribly hard to get people to support it.  So he can go toss for all I care.

But when we talk about inferiority of the military.  There&#039;s a fundamental concept that goes much deeper here, and that&#039;s how you believe the War on Terror (tm) should be fought.  This adminstration made it clear that it believed that you fight terrorist organizations not even sanctioned by a sovereign state with uniformed services.

That&#039;s a ludicrous idea, and it was that thinking that in part put us in the mess we&#039;re currently in.

You look at the logistics of what we are doing, and not just our military but no military is well suited towards the kind of conflict we see in Iraq today.  To their credit, our soldiers have adopted and adapted concepts of urban warfare to the maximum extent possible, but this is not one army against another.

Instead, this is a single uniformed army fighting essentially a fractured and militant citizenry.  Based on the volatile social situation Iraq&#039;s peoples are in, we&#039;re talking about a scenario where one day someone could be a friendly, or at least a neutral, and the next they have you in the sights, and what&#039;s the worst is that you will never know the difference.

If Schumer and Reid are really saying the boots on the ground are inferior, I can&#039;t condone, and would in fact condemn that kind of language...

crap gotta go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s good reason to undermine Patraeus when you think it&#8217;s not going to be on the level, and I expect them to at least ask hard questions which is good, and what I think you would expect of any legislator asked to evaluate the performance of just about anything.</p>
<p>Impeachment is only silly talk because legislators are unwilling to do it.  That&#8217;s about it.  I mean, did you know you can impeach people after they already left office?  I think something should be done to this current administration if for no other reason than to serve as a message to future administrations that there are limits.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, those limits have long since been passed without any kind of reproachment, and so that&#8217;s out the window I suppose.</p>
<p>As for the military being inferior, look, I don&#8217;t defend Reid anymore.  In fact one of my last posts about the man was me saying that I can&#8217;t shill for everything he does and says anymore.  I think he&#8217;s a terrible Majority Leader, a fact that is evidenced by, among other things, the simple existence of caucus fractures within the party.  One thing that has severely hurt the Dems is the inability of Reid to get them voting as a unit, something the GOP is excellent at doing.</p>
<p>Instead, Reid&#8217;s MO appears to be talking tough, introducing tough legislation, but then not really working too terribly hard to get people to support it.  So he can go toss for all I care.</p>
<p>But when we talk about inferiority of the military.  There&#8217;s a fundamental concept that goes much deeper here, and that&#8217;s how you believe the War on Terror &#8482; should be fought.  This adminstration made it clear that it believed that you fight terrorist organizations not even sanctioned by a sovereign state with uniformed services.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a ludicrous idea, and it was that thinking that in part put us in the mess we&#8217;re currently in.</p>
<p>You look at the logistics of what we are doing, and not just our military but no military is well suited towards the kind of conflict we see in Iraq today.  To their credit, our soldiers have adopted and adapted concepts of urban warfare to the maximum extent possible, but this is not one army against another.</p>
<p>Instead, this is a single uniformed army fighting essentially a fractured and militant citizenry.  Based on the volatile social situation Iraq&#8217;s peoples are in, we&#8217;re talking about a scenario where one day someone could be a friendly, or at least a neutral, and the next they have you in the sights, and what&#8217;s the worst is that you will never know the difference.</p>
<p>If Schumer and Reid are really saying the boots on the ground are inferior, I can&#8217;t condone, and would in fact condemn that kind of language&#8230;</p>
<p>crap gotta go.</p>
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		<title>By: xranger</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3312</link>
		<dc:creator>xranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the project took a few years, since it was so extensive. I mean, that number of people is over 1-1/2 times the population of Pittsburgh.

Cheney/Bush impeachment now is just silly talk.

Backing out of Iraq right now, and leaving a small force in Kuwait, is unfeasible. 

How can anyone take people like Schumer seriously now, when he says that the US military is inferior? All the media has done is focus on Harry Reed and Schumer, undermining Petraeus before he even speaks to Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the project took a few years, since it was so extensive. I mean, that number of people is over 1-1/2 times the population of Pittsburgh.</p>
<p>Cheney/Bush impeachment now is just silly talk.</p>
<p>Backing out of Iraq right now, and leaving a small force in Kuwait, is unfeasible. </p>
<p>How can anyone take people like Schumer seriously now, when he says that the US military is inferior? All the media has done is focus on Harry Reed and Schumer, undermining Petraeus before he even speaks to Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3281</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to pardon me if we provide water to an extra 2.5% of the Iraqi population four years after we invaded Iraq. It&#039;s nice, don&#039;t get me wrong, but um... little late and small, no?

And whoever said I wanted a victory party?  You know me on this one, I mean we had the discussion. 

Here&#039;s what I want:

Cheney and Bush both impeached quickly and replaced with someone competent and willing to look at all of the intelligence and not that which fits their narrative.

Presumably back out of Iraq, leaving a decent force possibly in Kuwait to jump in in the case of excessive genocide or soemthing.

Let the Iraqi&#039;s fix this problem themselves.  That&#039;s the short of it.

We were essentially agreeing on this days ago.  The continuing point I&#039;ve been making is how the hell are we going to get any progress done when Bush continues to Ignore severely large portions of dissent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to pardon me if we provide water to an extra 2.5% of the Iraqi population four years after we invaded Iraq. It&#8217;s nice, don&#8217;t get me wrong, but um&#8230; little late and small, no?</p>
<p>And whoever said I wanted a victory party?  You know me on this one, I mean we had the discussion. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I want:</p>
<p>Cheney and Bush both impeached quickly and replaced with someone competent and willing to look at all of the intelligence and not that which fits their narrative.</p>
<p>Presumably back out of Iraq, leaving a decent force possibly in Kuwait to jump in in the case of excessive genocide or soemthing.</p>
<p>Let the Iraqi&#8217;s fix this problem themselves.  That&#8217;s the short of it.</p>
<p>We were essentially agreeing on this days ago.  The continuing point I&#8217;ve been making is how the hell are we going to get any progress done when Bush continues to Ignore severely large portions of dissent?</p>
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		<title>By: xranger</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/4000/comment-page-1#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator>xranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another bite that indicates we are not doing anything in Iraq:

&quot;At a recent ceremony, officials from the Iraqi Ministry of Municipalities and Public Works and the Nasiriyah Governate Council gathered to mark the completion of the Nasiriyah Water Treatment Plant by opening the city connections at an elevated storage tank and allowing water to flow into the distribution network.

The plant and distribution system will help provide clean water to more than 500,000 residents of Dhi Qar Province in southern Iraq serving five major communities in the province: Nasiriyah, Suq Ash Shuek, Al Diwaya, Al Shatra, and Al Gharraf.&quot;

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=13830&amp;Itemid=1

But, hey, keep that negativety comin&#039;.  If we do pull out prematurely, and the worst scenario occurs in Iraq, invite me to your victory party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another bite that indicates we are not doing anything in Iraq:</p>
<p>&#8220;At a recent ceremony, officials from the Iraqi Ministry of Municipalities and Public Works and the Nasiriyah Governate Council gathered to mark the completion of the Nasiriyah Water Treatment Plant by opening the city connections at an elevated storage tank and allowing water to flow into the distribution network.</p>
<p>The plant and distribution system will help provide clean water to more than 500,000 residents of Dhi Qar Province in southern Iraq serving five major communities in the province: Nasiriyah, Suq Ash Shuek, Al Diwaya, Al Shatra, and Al Gharraf.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=13830&#038;Itemid=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=13830&#038;Itemid=1</a></p>
<p>But, hey, keep that negativety comin&#8217;.  If we do pull out prematurely, and the worst scenario occurs in Iraq, invite me to your victory party.</p>
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