Comments on: Monks Lead in Burma; Will Bush Ever Take Action to Match Words? http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words Loaning brain cells to those in need since 2003 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:59:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6635 matttbastard Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:43:11 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6635 <em>"You all need to be writing to the your congressman and to the Chinese government who helps keep the generals in power to help get freedom for those poor people. Do something other than just complaining……"</em> Why do you assume 'us all' <em>haven't</em> been doing just that? Maybe you should take heed of your own (self-righteous and ironic) advice. (And since when has it been 'hip' to travel to Burma?) “You all need to be writing to the your congressman and to the Chinese government who helps keep the generals in power to help get freedom for those poor people. Do something other than just complaining……”

Why do you assume ‘us all’ haven’t been doing just that? Maybe you should take heed of your own (self-righteous and ironic) advice.

(And since when has it been ‘hip’ to travel to Burma?)

]]> By: eek http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6268 eek Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:30:59 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6268 Maybe if you would all stop blaming everyone in the United States and Bush and start blaming the right people - "The generals in Burma" you might help the people of Burma to be free. I can't believe all the petty bullshit that you spout about the US - In Burma you would be arrested and maybe killed. I traveled in Burma in 1994 and saw the brutal way that they treat everyone. I left after only 5 days because I didn't want to support the government. Please tell everyone you know not to travel to Burma. By traveling there you only support the government. I know it is really "hip" to say you traveled but believe me it hurts the freedom movement. You all need to be writing to the your congressman and to the Chinese government who helps keep the generals in power to help get freedom for those poor people. Do something other than just complaining...... Maybe if you would all stop blaming everyone in the United States and Bush and start blaming the right people - “The generals in Burma” you might help the people of Burma to be free. I can’t believe all the petty bullshit that you spout about the US - In Burma you would be arrested and maybe killed. I traveled in Burma in 1994 and saw the brutal way that they treat everyone. I left after only 5 days because I didn’t want to support the government. Please tell everyone you know not to travel to Burma. By traveling there you only support the government. I know it is really “hip” to say you traveled but believe me it hurts the freedom movement.

You all need to be writing to the your congressman and to the Chinese government who helps keep the generals in power to help get freedom for those poor people. Do something other than just complaining……

]]> By: alice88 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6137 alice88 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:30:12 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6137 ah yes, don't want to encourage bush and condi to use real diplomacy to pressure other nations to do the right thing for burma and its people. if we can't use shock and awe and all those sexy weapons, it isn't so much fun for our government. it would take real work and faith in our career foreign service instead of using political appointees who on the whole have no background, experience or expertise to do the job. i include ms. rice in the latter group. ah yes, don’t want to encourage bush and condi to use real diplomacy to pressure other nations to do the right thing for burma and its people. if we can’t use shock and awe and all those sexy weapons, it isn’t so much fun for our government. it would take real work and faith in our career foreign service instead of using political appointees who on the whole have no background, experience or expertise to do the job. i include ms. rice in the latter group.

]]> By: Kyle E. Moore http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6010 Kyle E. Moore Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:38:27 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6010 Me? I was just having a little fun. I'm totally cool letting people pound away at strawmen and ad homs until they're worn out... it's like the political debate version of the rope-a-dope Me? I was just having a little fun. I’m totally cool letting people pound away at strawmen and ad homs until they’re worn out… it’s like the political debate version of the rope-a-dope

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6005 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:09:25 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6005 <p>Of course, Mac - hence my 'ridicule' caveat. My DNFTT exhortation was more directed towards Kyle, who seemed genuinely perplexed by Trolly McBridgerson's sub-literate slobbering about Tibet.</p> <p>SAVE THE WHALES! </p> <p>(Don't make me break out my puppet-fu...)</p> Of course, Mac - hence my ‘ridicule’ caveat. My DNFTT exhortation was more directed towards Kyle, who seemed genuinely perplexed by Trolly McBridgerson’s sub-literate slobbering about Tibet.

SAVE THE WHALES!

(Don’t make me break out my puppet-fu…)

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6004 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:04:48 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6004 Good <a href="http://brownfemipower.com/?p=1853" rel="nofollow">post</a> by Brownfemipower, featuring two must-see Beeb vids. Good post by Brownfemipower, featuring two must-see Beeb vids.

]]> By: Macswain http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6000 Macswain Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:50:52 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-6000 I, on the other hand, have been known to enjoy playing a lil' whack-a-troll. section 9 ... come back and take your whoopin'. I, on the other hand, have been known to enjoy playing a lil’ whack-a-troll.

section 9 … come back and take your whoopin’.

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5999 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:46:31 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5999 Back on topic: The Beeb <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7010839.stm" rel="nofollow">reports</a> the junta has threatened to "take action" against protesters: <em>Brig Gen Thura Myint Maung, minister for religion, warned them not to break Buddhist "rules and regulations" as Rangoon saw the largest march yet. He blamed the protests on "destructive elements" opposed to peace in Burma. </em> Also, Dubya is set to drop "fresh US sanctions on Burmese leaders": "<em>The sanctions, which will include a ban on US visas, will be announced during Mr Bush's speech at the United Nations on Tuesday, US National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said.</em>" Oooh, a ban on US visas. That'll make 'em think twice about a violent crackdown *snerk* <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7010796.stm" rel="nofollow">Oh, and the continued silence from China is deafening</a>, though, as noted above by yours truly, Beijing's newfound image-consciousness may cause it to reconsider its traditional policy of non-interference with (unsavoury) allies: "<em>A stable Burma is important for China, as it is a corridor to the Indian Ocean and also a valuable trading partner. China wants to keep it that way. So instability or even war in Burma is not in China's interest. But neither is a bloody crackdown, because China is worried about its own image in the run up to next year's Beijing Olympic Games. And a Beijing-backed crackdown in Burma would spoil China's idea of a trouble-free Olympics. </em>" Back on topic:

The Beeb reports the junta has threatened to “take action” against protesters:

Brig Gen Thura Myint Maung, minister for religion, warned them not to break Buddhist “rules and regulations” as Rangoon saw the largest march yet.

He blamed the protests on “destructive elements” opposed to peace in Burma.

Also, Dubya is set to drop “fresh US sanctions on Burmese leaders”:

“The sanctions, which will include a ban on US visas, will be announced during Mr Bush’s speech at the United Nations on Tuesday, US National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said.”

Oooh, a ban on US visas. That’ll make ‘em think twice about a violent crackdown *snerk*

Oh, and the continued silence from China is deafening, though, as noted above by yours truly, Beijing’s newfound image-consciousness may cause it to reconsider its traditional policy of non-interference with (unsavoury) allies:

“A stable Burma is important for China, as it is a corridor to the Indian Ocean and also a valuable trading partner.

China wants to keep it that way. So instability or even war in Burma is not in China’s interest. But neither is a bloody crackdown, because China is worried about its own image in the run up to next year’s Beijing Olympic Games.

And a Beijing-backed crackdown in Burma would spoil China’s idea of a trouble-free Olympics. “

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5985 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:27:02 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5985 PS - FREE MUMIA! PS - FREE MUMIA!

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5983 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:15:40 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5983 "DNFTT" = "Do not feed the troll." IMO (and from past online experience) anyone dumb enough to come in all gangbusters with the ad homs ("asshats," eh? Fuck you <i>and</i> the three tramp-tramping billy goats that awoke you), false dichotomies and bullshit strawmen like "[b]ut of course, then you people would have to do something about all those “Free Tibet” bumper stickers on your cars" is quite obviously <i>not</i> participating in good faith, and isn't worth wasting time engaging. Other than in ridicule, of course. YMMV. Five bucks says s/he gets his/her martyr on (you moonbats is profane an' mean an' dun wanna debate mee!)--assuming the dubious contribution wasn't just a drive by. “DNFTT” = “Do not feed the troll.”

IMO (and from past online experience) anyone dumb enough to come in all gangbusters with the ad homs (”asshats,” eh? Fuck you and the three tramp-tramping billy goats that awoke you), false dichotomies and bullshit strawmen like “[b]ut of course, then you people would have to do something about all those “Free Tibet” bumper stickers on your cars” is quite obviously not participating in good faith, and isn’t worth wasting time engaging.

Other than in ridicule, of course. YMMV.

Five bucks says s/he gets his/her martyr on (you moonbats is profane an’ mean an’ dun wanna debate mee!)–assuming the dubious contribution wasn’t just a drive by.

]]> By: mick http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5982 mick Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:03:47 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5982 "DNFTT". Excuse me? section9: Of course I blame Bush. When Poppy had a golden opportunity to intervene during the '88 rebellion, he didn't. He ignored it. I blamed him for that because he was president and it was his decision. When Clinton had 8 years to put pressure on the junta and all he came up with was some lame-ass sanctions, even tho nobody else had even done that much I blamed him for not doing more because he was president and it was his decision. So what makes Georgie special? He's going to add some more lame-ass sanctions that are carefully restricted so the flow of business between US companies and the Junta can continue, he's president, it's his decision, but somehow we're not supposed to blame him for his totally ineffective response? Why should George Bush get a free pass when he screws up? Nobody else does. “DNFTT”. Excuse me?

section9:

Of course I blame Bush. When Poppy had a golden opportunity to intervene during the ‘88 rebellion, he didn’t. He ignored it. I blamed him for that because he was president and it was his decision.

When Clinton had 8 years to put pressure on the junta and all he came up with was some lame-ass sanctions, even tho nobody else had even done that much I blamed him for not doing more because he was president and it was his decision.

So what makes Georgie special? He’s going to add some more lame-ass sanctions that are carefully restricted so the flow of business between US companies and the Junta can continue, he’s president, it’s his decision, but somehow we’re not supposed to blame him for his totally ineffective response?

Why should George Bush get a free pass when he screws up? Nobody else does.

]]> By: matttbastard http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5957 matttbastard Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:39:08 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5957 DNFTT. DNFTT.

]]> By: Macswain http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5954 Macswain Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:32:05 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5954 <i>If Iraq is none of our business, than Burma should be none of our business too.</i> Another good example of why righties shouldn't be allowed to do foreign policy. Apparently, they believe there are only two options - do nothing or invade and occupy. If Iraq is none of our business, than Burma should be none of our business too.

Another good example of why righties shouldn’t be allowed to do foreign policy. Apparently, they believe there are only two options - do nothing or invade and occupy.

]]> By: Kyle E. Moore http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5948 Kyle E. Moore Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:03:17 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5948 I don't have a "Free Tibet" Sticker on my car. Why does everyone assume that? I don’t have a “Free Tibet” Sticker on my car. Why does everyone assume that?

]]> By: section9 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5943 section9 Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:48:08 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/monks-lead-in-burma-will-bush-ever-take-action-to-match-words#comment-5943 WTF? The Burmese generals have been running a sham state for twenty years and you asshats blame Bush? Figures. Look,, we have sanctions on that government and have had it on that government for some time. However, if you folks want to go over and join the Shan State rebels to "Free Burma", so be it. Be my fucking guest. Maybe Blackwater is recruiting. If <i>Iraq</i> is none of our business, than Burma should be none of our business too. But of course, then you people would have to do something about all those "Free Tibet" bumper stickers on your cars. WTF?

The Burmese generals have been running a sham state for twenty years and you asshats blame Bush? Figures. Look,, we have sanctions on that government and have had it on that government for some time.

However, if you folks want to go over and join the Shan State rebels to “Free Burma”, so be it. Be my fucking guest. Maybe Blackwater is recruiting.

If Iraq is none of our business, than Burma should be none of our business too.

But of course, then you people would have to do something about all those “Free Tibet” bumper stickers on your cars.

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