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		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-27240</link>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Iraq - Bush Visit - What if it Works?</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraq - Bush Visit - What if it Works?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comments from Left Field notes a &#8220;Ray of Hope&#8221; and analyzes some of the combat death numbers that are being questioned by some. Its near the end [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gamin&#8217; On Ya: Petraeus &#38; Iraq &#187; Comments From Left Field</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2715</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamin&#8217; On Ya: Petraeus &#38; Iraq &#187; Comments From Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 06:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fired me up with his post below analyzing the recent U.S. fatality numbers. Undoubtedly, the right will try and spin this as a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bastard.logic</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2702</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;To the Serious™, the Trolls, and the Kabuki Performers: A&#160;Rant...&lt;/strong&gt;

by matttbastard
A real moment of clarity: if basic infrastructure can be maintained (such as having electricity for longer than 4 hours a day); if security can be improved enough to not only stem the ongoing displacement of the educated classes (you kn...</description>
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<p>by matttbastard<br />
A real moment of clarity: if basic infrastructure can be maintained (such as having electricity for longer than 4 hours a day); if security can be improved enough to not only stem the ongoing displacement of the educated classes (you kn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And like any good rant, there are a number of choice typographical errors.

Hey, if you&#039;re going to be a raving moonbat, might as well go all the way.</description>
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<p>Hey, if you&#8217;re going to be a raving moonbat, might as well go all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2687</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trollinboca:

How about this for &#039;benchmarks&#039;: if basic infrastructure can be maintained (such as having electricity for longer than 4 hours a day); if security can be improved enough to not only stem the ongoing displacement of the educated classes (you know the ones who can help maintain said basic infrastructure) but allow the over 4 million refugees who have been forced to flee to return (fat chance); if the public starts to trust the authorities enough to reintegrate formerly mixed neighbourhoods and quit placing their loyalties behind sectarian militias (most of which have infliltrated various levels of government); maybe if we can somehow magically invent a viable, independent,  secular-nationalist parliament that actually works AND equally represents and unite said disparate sectarian interests; maybe if we  could magically invent a time machine and NOT de-Baathify the nation and immediately create a power vortex; then maybe-MAYBE-we can call this whole bloody endeavour a write off.  

But a win?  With the blood of umpteen hundred thousand corpses staining our hands? Fuck you and the horse the you and fourth horseman rode in on. And fuck your crass, callous attempts selective partisan point scoring.  I don&#039;t give a good god damn about &#039;nutroots&#039; and &#039;left wing media conspiracies&#039;.  I care about flesh and blood people that have had their lives uprooted or have died and continue to die because the ideological industrial complex decided abuse their authority and use Iraq as a geopolitical petri dish. 

So don&#039;t try to tell me that half-assed PR stunts  like the Kagan surge or selective number crunching re: coalition/civilian casualties (which always cycle seasonally - come back to me when Ramadan hits and then maybe IF numbers are still down there&#039;ll be something to be happy about) designed purely for domestic consumption are meant to do anything more than allowing for another Friedman. If Bush was actually serious about doing what was best &lt;i&gt;for Iraq&lt;/i&gt; and the surrounding region, he would have immediately adopted the (not perfect but better than any other alternatives at such a late point in time) ISG recommendations, which could have maybe--maybe--stopped some of the bleeding.  Instead, he went with the AEI&#039;s preferred victory blueprint (and his ego).  

Surprise surprise. 

So now Bush is merely buying time until Jan &#039;09, when Iraq is someone else&#039;s problem, and both the MSM and the Democratic-controlled congress is enabling it with the same old Kabuki performance they always do.   Shit, Warner&#039;s even furrowing his brow yet again (and I&#039;m willing to bet an F.U.&#039;s worth of wages that he&#039;ll vote his party line, again, too). 

The sheets have been soiled, blood and shit stains already well-set as soon as the bombs started shocking and aweing. 4 years later, you can illuminate the mess with a ray of hope, but that doesn&#039;t clean it up. The bed will not be unshat, no matter how many pretty graphs are compiled and commissioned think tank op-eds  are published.  

Feel free to dismiss the preceding rant as defeat-o-crat moonbattery (free Mumia! Bu$hitler! etc).  Doing so won&#039;t make Iraq any less a failed state.</description>
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<p>How about this for &#8216;benchmarks&#8217;: if basic infrastructure can be maintained (such as having electricity for longer than 4 hours a day); if security can be improved enough to not only stem the ongoing displacement of the educated classes (you know the ones who can help maintain said basic infrastructure) but allow the over 4 million refugees who have been forced to flee to return (fat chance); if the public starts to trust the authorities enough to reintegrate formerly mixed neighbourhoods and quit placing their loyalties behind sectarian militias (most of which have infliltrated various levels of government); maybe if we can somehow magically invent a viable, independent,  secular-nationalist parliament that actually works AND equally represents and unite said disparate sectarian interests; maybe if we  could magically invent a time machine and NOT de-Baathify the nation and immediately create a power vortex; then maybe-MAYBE-we can call this whole bloody endeavour a write off.  </p>
<p>But a win?  With the blood of umpteen hundred thousand corpses staining our hands? Fuck you and the horse the you and fourth horseman rode in on. And fuck your crass, callous attempts selective partisan point scoring.  I don&#8217;t give a good god damn about &#8216;nutroots&#8217; and &#8216;left wing media conspiracies&#8217;.  I care about flesh and blood people that have had their lives uprooted or have died and continue to die because the ideological industrial complex decided abuse their authority and use Iraq as a geopolitical petri dish. </p>
<p>So don&#8217;t try to tell me that half-assed PR stunts  like the Kagan surge or selective number crunching re: coalition/civilian casualties (which always cycle seasonally &#8211; come back to me when Ramadan hits and then maybe IF numbers are still down there&#8217;ll be something to be happy about) designed purely for domestic consumption are meant to do anything more than allowing for another Friedman. If Bush was actually serious about doing what was best <i>for Iraq</i> and the surrounding region, he would have immediately adopted the (not perfect but better than any other alternatives at such a late point in time) ISG recommendations, which could have maybe&#8211;maybe&#8211;stopped some of the bleeding.  Instead, he went with the AEI&#8217;s preferred victory blueprint (and his ego).  </p>
<p>Surprise surprise. </p>
<p>So now Bush is merely buying time until Jan &#8216;09, when Iraq is someone else&#8217;s problem, and both the MSM and the Democratic-controlled congress is enabling it with the same old Kabuki performance they always do.   Shit, Warner&#8217;s even furrowing his brow yet again (and I&#8217;m willing to bet an F.U.&#8217;s worth of wages that he&#8217;ll vote his party line, again, too). </p>
<p>The sheets have been soiled, blood and shit stains already well-set as soon as the bombs started shocking and aweing. 4 years later, you can illuminate the mess with a ray of hope, but that doesn&#8217;t clean it up. The bed will not be unshat, no matter how many pretty graphs are compiled and commissioned think tank op-eds  are published.  </p>
<p>Feel free to dismiss the preceding rant as defeat-o-crat moonbattery (free Mumia! Bu$hitler! etc).  Doing so won&#8217;t make Iraq any less a failed state.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tedesco</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2678</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tedesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recognize that logic, you must work in corporate America?</description>
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		<title>By: Macswain</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2677</link>
		<dc:creator>Macswain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude,

Do you actually expect daveinboca to compare Aug &#039;07 to Aug &#039;06?  That&#039;s so last year.

Here&#039;s the rule: you compare each new month with the most recent worst month - May &#039;07 for the time being - anything not as bad is &quot;success.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude,</p>
<p>Do you actually expect daveinboca to compare Aug &#8216;07 to Aug &#8216;06?  That&#8217;s so last year.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the rule: you compare each new month with the most recent worst month &#8211; May &#8216;07 for the time being &#8211; anything not as bad is &#8220;success.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tedesco</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2673</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tedesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps. Or perhaps not. I am still looking for an answer to why the big difference in non-combat related casualties has gone up so much in August. As you can see from the data above, US casualties are up over the same three months last year [June-Aug] - 169 vs. 261.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps. Or perhaps not. I am still looking for an answer to why the big difference in non-combat related casualties has gone up so much in August. As you can see from the data above, US casualties are up over the same three months last year [June-Aug] &#8211; 169 vs. 261.</p>
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		<title>By: daveinboca</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ray-of-hope/comment-page-1#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>daveinboca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we have turned the tide and are beginning to win.  However, this event will go unreported when and if it happens in the left-wing MSM &amp; the nutroot Bloggos---they so desperately want us to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we have turned the tide and are beginning to win.  However, this event will go unreported when and if it happens in the left-wing MSM &amp; the nutroot Bloggos&#8212;they so desperately want us to lose.</p>
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