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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-16227</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul will end the evil empire.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-12063</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Ron Go!!</description>
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		<title>By: cowbot</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-10053</link>
		<dc:creator>cowbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments here remind me of how caged apes  at the zoo  show dislike for humans - by defecating into their hands and throwing  shit at them.

The analogy is appropriate as the behavior displayed here is by primates in mental cages, who advocate caged humanity, and who feel deep seated loathing and jealousy towards passerby who are enlightened, intelligent and free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments here remind me of how caged apes  at the zoo  show dislike for humans &#8211; by defecating into their hands and throwing  shit at them.</p>
<p>The analogy is appropriate as the behavior displayed here is by primates in mental cages, who advocate caged humanity, and who feel deep seated loathing and jealousy towards passerby who are enlightened, intelligent and free.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G.</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-8152</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That says it all. Well, that and RP’s ‘I can’t think of anything I don’t agree with [the John Birch Society] about&quot;

They key item in that quote is, &quot;I can&#039;t think of anything,&quot; just because he is unable to think of all of JBS positions does not mean that he agrees with all of them. For example, I may say I can&#039;t think of points that myself and Ludwig von Mises disagree on. However, that is not to say that there are some positions of his that I am unaware of.  In case of this occurrence, I do believe I should be offered the chance to change my statement. 

If we are going to argue back and forth about Ron Paul maybe we should use less loaded terms that invoke emotions from both sides. Ron Paul is not anti-children, anti-education, or anti-poor. He simply believes that the market can offer alternatives to the coercive monopoly enforced by the government. That being said, he does believe that states should be able to decide on these matters. So if all of the collectivist utopiaists want to move to, oh lets say Vermont, they can set up there little tax funded paradise. This would set up a sort of market for the ideal balance of government intervention. 

The examples given about the FAA and MSHA are pretty ridiculous. I mean what next? Is someone going to bring up Upton Sinclair. Just because one mind cannot think up a market alternative does not mean that an alternative does not exist. Thats kind of the driving force behind a market economy, innovation. People are always going to try and come up with stuff no one else has thought of or was able to implement correctly, find new markets for products, find more efficient methods of production, etc. 

If people on this blog are going to make assertions about Ron Paul &quot;bordering on dementia,&quot; a pretty weighty claim, I would expect a pretty cogent argument to convince me of this proposition. Instead, I find system-system argumentation, which will only yield a result of aesthetic value to members of either system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That says it all. Well, that and RP’s ‘I can’t think of anything I don’t agree with [the John Birch Society] about&#8221;</p>
<p>They key item in that quote is, &#8220;I can&#8217;t think of anything,&#8221; just because he is unable to think of all of JBS positions does not mean that he agrees with all of them. For example, I may say I can&#8217;t think of points that myself and Ludwig von Mises disagree on. However, that is not to say that there are some positions of his that I am unaware of.  In case of this occurrence, I do believe I should be offered the chance to change my statement. </p>
<p>If we are going to argue back and forth about Ron Paul maybe we should use less loaded terms that invoke emotions from both sides. Ron Paul is not anti-children, anti-education, or anti-poor. He simply believes that the market can offer alternatives to the coercive monopoly enforced by the government. That being said, he does believe that states should be able to decide on these matters. So if all of the collectivist utopiaists want to move to, oh lets say Vermont, they can set up there little tax funded paradise. This would set up a sort of market for the ideal balance of government intervention. </p>
<p>The examples given about the FAA and MSHA are pretty ridiculous. I mean what next? Is someone going to bring up Upton Sinclair. Just because one mind cannot think up a market alternative does not mean that an alternative does not exist. Thats kind of the driving force behind a market economy, innovation. People are always going to try and come up with stuff no one else has thought of or was able to implement correctly, find new markets for products, find more efficient methods of production, etc. </p>
<p>If people on this blog are going to make assertions about Ron Paul &#8220;bordering on dementia,&#8221; a pretty weighty claim, I would expect a pretty cogent argument to convince me of this proposition. Instead, I find system-system argumentation, which will only yield a result of aesthetic value to members of either system.</p>
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		<title>By: Well Well Well</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7498</link>
		<dc:creator>Well Well Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron is being shut out so change to the Repub party even if you are not one.
http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-New-Voting-Rules-100307.html

Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron is being shut out so change to the Repub party even if you are not one.<br />
<a href="http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-New-Voting-Rules-100307.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-New-Voting-Rules-100307.html</a></p>
<p>Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: K Dawson</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7461</link>
		<dc:creator>K Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encourage everyone to decide for yourselves. Check out the issues:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I encourage everyone to decide for yourselves. Check out the issues:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7125</link>
		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>antiwar.com, which runs many of Ron Pauls columns  is run by a gay man.  Ron Paul has tons of black, white asian, gay supporters and even barry manilow mailed in 2,300, who even knows what that means.


I don&#039;t understand how less govenrment equals bigotry to you.    Do you think he is going to bring back segregation?  

Maybe because you are canadian, you don&#039;t have the daily guilt of being morally culpable for a war you think is wrong.  We have to pay for this thing and read about it every day.  It would be hard for a government with no power to pull something like scooter libby ,cheney and co did so  that&#039;s what we are going for.

If it means taking out the &quot;good&quot; programs too,  so be it.  better than having more wars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>antiwar.com, which runs many of Ron Pauls columns  is run by a gay man.  Ron Paul has tons of black, white asian, gay supporters and even barry manilow mailed in 2,300, who even knows what that means.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand how less govenrment equals bigotry to you.    Do you think he is going to bring back segregation?  </p>
<p>Maybe because you are canadian, you don&#8217;t have the daily guilt of being morally culpable for a war you think is wrong.  We have to pay for this thing and read about it every day.  It would be hard for a government with no power to pull something like scooter libby ,cheney and co did so  that&#8217;s what we are going for.</p>
<p>If it means taking out the &#8220;good&#8221; programs too,  so be it.  better than having more wars</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7114</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;of COURSE we want to roll back the New Deal and the get rid of the federal reserve and social security. &lt;/em&gt;&quot;

That says it all. Well, that and RP&#039;s &#039;I can&#039;t think of anything I don&#039;t agree with [the John Birch Society] about&#039; quote.  So, Paul believes that us LGBT folks are trying to indoctrinate the good Christian children of America with queer-cooties? That the UN is attempting to establish a one-world gov&#039;t?  That the &#039;64 CRA went too damn far, man? (ZOMG CIVIL RIGHTS=COMMUNISM!!!11)

lester, I hope you&#039;re having fun arguing with the straw-bastard in your head.  You might want to talk to someone about that - hearing voices from imaginary people can be a sign of impending psychosis. 

And that&#039;s the last morsel you get from me.  Have fun with your little &lt;strike&gt;circle jerk&lt;/strike&gt; rEVOLution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>of COURSE we want to roll back the New Deal and the get rid of the federal reserve and social security. </em>&#8221;</p>
<p>That says it all. Well, that and RP&#8217;s &#8216;I can&#8217;t think of anything I don&#8217;t agree with [the John Birch Society] about&#8217; quote.  So, Paul believes that us LGBT folks are trying to indoctrinate the good Christian children of America with queer-cooties? That the UN is attempting to establish a one-world gov&#8217;t?  That the &#8216;64 CRA went too damn far, man? (ZOMG CIVIL RIGHTS=COMMUNISM!!!11)</p>
<p>lester, I hope you&#8217;re having fun arguing with the straw-bastard in your head.  You might want to talk to someone about that &#8211; hearing voices from imaginary people can be a sign of impending psychosis. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the last morsel you get from me.  Have fun with your little <strike>circle jerk</strike> rEVOLution.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7109</link>
		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mattbastard-  &quot;I am Canadian&quot;  

no kidding!   &quot;racist, anti-choice conspiracy monger blah blah&quot;  

of COURSE we want to roll back the New Deal and the get rid of the federal reserve and social security.   do you work for the government?  if not why do you care? 

and how would having more of our money injected back into the civilian economy be bad for business?  Dr paul is consistently #1 or 2 in the congressional index of economic freedom.  He &#039;s not an isolationist, he&#039;s for free trade.  He wrote a blurb on &quot;the politically incorrect guide to capitalism&quot; a book written by an ANARCHIST for crying out loud.    


kyle-    is it possible that there can be a phenemonon here without the prospect of a likely nomination?

i keep hearing &quot;he can&#039;t win&quot;   but so what?  Do you have some employer preventing you from covering candidates who aren&#039;t on the first tier?  I thought blogs were supposed to be sort of underground and outside the mainstream.  

Is it neccasary for you to cover the news EXACTLY the way hardball or the Oreilly factor already do?  

You have a ron paul topic and you get tons of hits and you are mad about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mattbastard-  &#8220;I am Canadian&#8221;  </p>
<p>no kidding!   &#8220;racist, anti-choice conspiracy monger blah blah&#8221;  </p>
<p>of COURSE we want to roll back the New Deal and the get rid of the federal reserve and social security.   do you work for the government?  if not why do you care? </p>
<p>and how would having more of our money injected back into the civilian economy be bad for business?  Dr paul is consistently #1 or 2 in the congressional index of economic freedom.  He &#8217;s not an isolationist, he&#8217;s for free trade.  He wrote a blurb on &#8220;the politically incorrect guide to capitalism&#8221; a book written by an ANARCHIST for crying out loud.    </p>
<p>kyle-    is it possible that there can be a phenemonon here without the prospect of a likely nomination?</p>
<p>i keep hearing &#8220;he can&#8217;t win&#8221;   but so what?  Do you have some employer preventing you from covering candidates who aren&#8217;t on the first tier?  I thought blogs were supposed to be sort of underground and outside the mainstream.  </p>
<p>Is it neccasary for you to cover the news EXACTLY the way hardball or the Oreilly factor already do?  </p>
<p>You have a ron paul topic and you get tons of hits and you are mad about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-2#comment-7105</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, seriously, if anyone is left, we&#039;re not debating, this is kinda sad.  I just as you to click on the fisher house banner in the upper left hand corner, and please help us out, otherwise, as I&#039;ve mentioned before, I&#039;m so over this convo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, seriously, if anyone is left, we&#8217;re not debating, this is kinda sad.  I just as you to click on the fisher house banner in the upper left hand corner, and please help us out, otherwise, as I&#8217;ve mentioned before, I&#8217;m so over this convo.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-1#comment-7104</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, it&#039;s like we&#039;re not even here.  I could say puppies are blue, and someone would probably come back with a &quot;durka durka. constitution Ron Paul durka durka durka&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, it&#8217;s like we&#8217;re not even here.  I could say puppies are blue, and someone would probably come back with a &#8220;durka durka. constitution Ron Paul durka durka durka&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-1#comment-7086</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean seriously, who says, &quot;Now, you take that back!&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean seriously, who says, &#8220;Now, you take that back!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anti Federalist</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-1#comment-7085</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti Federalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matttbastard:

When will you &quot;lefties&quot;, both inside and outside the country, realize that the big government behemoth you find so neccesary will not always be run by kindly Mr. Rogers type characters dispensing free health care and lollipops?

You created this monster now run by your inbred cousins, the &quot;neo-cons&quot;.

And you are screaming bloody murder about it, because it&#039;s now dropping bombs instead of alms for the poor. Well, you have no one to blame but yourself.

And that is fact that will never go away, unless the government itself is restrained by the Constitution. (which is not some sort of &quot;living&quot; Doppleganger but a clearly written document that means what it says and says what it means.)

Ron Paul 2008!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matttbastard:</p>
<p>When will you &#8220;lefties&#8221;, both inside and outside the country, realize that the big government behemoth you find so neccesary will not always be run by kindly Mr. Rogers type characters dispensing free health care and lollipops?</p>
<p>You created this monster now run by your inbred cousins, the &#8220;neo-cons&#8221;.</p>
<p>And you are screaming bloody murder about it, because it&#8217;s now dropping bombs instead of alms for the poor. Well, you have no one to blame but yourself.</p>
<p>And that is fact that will never go away, unless the government itself is restrained by the Constitution. (which is not some sort of &#8220;living&#8221; Doppleganger but a clearly written document that means what it says and says what it means.)</p>
<p>Ron Paul 2008!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-1#comment-7083</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s OK.   I was sort of chuckling while I typed my defense of you guys.  (I covered my eyes when I read your  &quot;10 reasons&quot; post...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s OK.   I was sort of chuckling while I typed my defense of you guys.  (I covered my eyes when I read your  &#8220;10 reasons&#8221; post&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/ron-paul-really/comment-page-1#comment-7081</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry, Laura - I can only stay &#039;restrained and polite&#039; for so long. ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry, Laura &#8211; I can only stay &#8216;restrained and polite&#8217; for so long. <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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