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		<title>By: Pat Buchanan: Let Them Have Food Stamps &#187; Comments from Left Field</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/untended-wounds#comment-27584</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Buchanan: Let Them Have Food Stamps &#187; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indeed, it reminds me of a piece that Michael Medved did a while back where he tried to make the absurd claim that slavery wasn&#8217;t all that bad. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/untended-wounds#comment-6921</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no stains, I do feel particularly dirty though.  *shudder*

And yeah, it's very reactionary, and the thing about the founding fathers is that they are mistakenly used to justify everything that they want to do as prescribed by their ideologies.  For instance, reintegrating the church and public schools.

The common argument there is that htis is a christian nation sprinkled with a little bit of Christianity is good and not nearly as bad and violent as the other religions.  What they fail to take into account, however is that two of the founding fathers who were probably most prominent in writing the Constitution, Madison and Jefferson, were neither Christians, nor supporters of endorsement of any religion by the government.  Just recently, John McCain made the statement that this was supposed to be a Christian nation, but while the Declaration of Independence did reference an almighty Creator, that document has no power beyond the symbolic.

That document that does direct the laws of the land, the Constitution, by contrast, actually omits references to anything theoligical at all.  ONly in the First amendment andthen the fourteenth, I believe (I would have to double check) is religion addressed and that to the purposes of establishing the metaphorical "wall" between church and state that madison had fought for.

But judicious study of the framing of the country, nor of virtually anything else is particularly helpful to any hard set ideological drive.  Even the most extreme fringes of the liberal ideology must shun such scrutiny for new knowledge has the potential to threaten an ideological world view.

What makes this so pervasive among the right is that the mainstream right has been significantly over ran by factious extremists.

Anyway, thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no stains, I do feel particularly dirty though.  *shudder*</p>
<p>And yeah, it&#8217;s very reactionary, and the thing about the founding fathers is that they are mistakenly used to justify everything that they want to do as prescribed by their ideologies.  For instance, reintegrating the church and public schools.</p>
<p>The common argument there is that htis is a christian nation sprinkled with a little bit of Christianity is good and not nearly as bad and violent as the other religions.  What they fail to take into account, however is that two of the founding fathers who were probably most prominent in writing the Constitution, Madison and Jefferson, were neither Christians, nor supporters of endorsement of any religion by the government.  Just recently, John McCain made the statement that this was supposed to be a Christian nation, but while the Declaration of Independence did reference an almighty Creator, that document has no power beyond the symbolic.</p>
<p>That document that does direct the laws of the land, the Constitution, by contrast, actually omits references to anything theoligical at all.  ONly in the First amendment andthen the fourteenth, I believe (I would have to double check) is religion addressed and that to the purposes of establishing the metaphorical &#8220;wall&#8221; between church and state that madison had fought for.</p>
<p>But judicious study of the framing of the country, nor of virtually anything else is particularly helpful to any hard set ideological drive.  Even the most extreme fringes of the liberal ideology must shun such scrutiny for new knowledge has the potential to threaten an ideological world view.</p>
<p>What makes this so pervasive among the right is that the mainstream right has been significantly over ran by factious extremists.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Journal</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/untended-wounds#comment-6846</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good dissection of these lame-brained arguments. 

There's also Gary King, a black man shot in the back by a police officer and left on the sidewalk for 15 minutes to die; Megan Williams, the black woman in Virginia who was tortured, forced to eat feces and called the N-word; and Pleajhai Mervin, a 16 year old black girl who had her wrist broken for not cleaning all of the cake crumbs on the ground at her school. Of course, I know your list wasn't meant to be exhaustive; I'm merely putting it out there for other readers to look into these other cases. 

But, yes, the right-wingers are so emotional and reactionary. It's as if they feel an immediate sense of guilt and then must rush to defend themselves and their mythologized heroes, the Founding Fathers, so they can wave their flags with unmitigated fervor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good dissection of these lame-brained arguments. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also Gary King, a black man shot in the back by a police officer and left on the sidewalk for 15 minutes to die; Megan Williams, the black woman in Virginia who was tortured, forced to eat feces and called the N-word; and Pleajhai Mervin, a 16 year old black girl who had her wrist broken for not cleaning all of the cake crumbs on the ground at her school. Of course, I know your list wasn&#8217;t meant to be exhaustive; I&#8217;m merely putting it out there for other readers to look into these other cases. </p>
<p>But, yes, the right-wingers are so emotional and reactionary. It&#8217;s as if they feel an immediate sense of guilt and then must rush to defend themselves and their mythologized heroes, the Founding Fathers, so they can wave their flags with unmitigated fervor.</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/09/untended-wounds#comment-6844</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pshhh.  No toe-stepping.  Multiple perspectives are always welcome. ;-)  I wasn't willing to wade in the muck as deep as you did.  Hopefully no stains were incurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pshhh.  No toe-stepping.  Multiple perspectives are always welcome. <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I wasn&#8217;t willing to wade in the muck as deep as you did.  Hopefully no stains were incurred.</p>
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