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	<title>Comments on: Bush&#8217;s Ugly Veto (UPDATE)</title>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elle, phd &lt;a href=&quot;http://elleabd.blogspot.com/2007/10/what-louisiana-does-david-vitter-live.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;notes&lt;/a&gt; that David Vitter (yes, &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; David Vitter) supported the veto, despite representing one of the poorest states in the Republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elle, phd <a href="http://elleabd.blogspot.com/2007/10/what-louisiana-does-david-vitter-live.html" rel="nofollow">notes</a> that David Vitter (yes, <em>that</em> David Vitter) supported the veto, despite representing one of the poorest states in the Republic.</p>
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		<title>By: eRobin</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7538</link>
		<dc:creator>eRobin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m helping to organize response rallies across PA.   We&#039;re having three: Erie, Bethlehem and Bryn Mawr (outside Philly).   If you want to get to a rally near you, go here:  http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=97

We&#039;ll be tying in the message that we&#039;re wasting 10 billion dollars a month killing people in Iraq and that as long as that continues, we cannot be the strong and just America that we expect to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m helping to organize response rallies across PA.   We&#8217;re having three: Erie, Bethlehem and Bryn Mawr (outside Philly).   If you want to get to a rally near you, go here:  <a href="http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=97" rel="nofollow">http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=97</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be tying in the message that we&#8217;re wasting 10 billion dollars a month killing people in Iraq and that as long as that continues, we cannot be the strong and just America that we expect to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bush to Kids: Grow Up!...&lt;/strong&gt;

The veto SCHIP is just one way the President is nipping the prepubescent culture of dependence in the bud....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bush to Kids: Grow Up!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The veto SCHIP is just one way the President is nipping the prepubescent culture of dependence in the bud&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7428</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I tried to find clips of him justifying his veto, and I couldn&#039;t find one on youtube, or even on crooks and liars.  Do you gotta link or a vid?  I really want to post it if we can dig it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I tried to find clips of him justifying his veto, and I couldn&#8217;t find one on youtube, or even on crooks and liars.  Do you gotta link or a vid?  I really want to post it if we can dig it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Arran</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7420</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Arran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first &quot;reason&quot; Bush gave for his veto was, and he actually said this, &lt;b&gt;it would hurt the profits of insurance companies&lt;/b&gt; by taking kids out of the private sector and putting them in the public program. That was pretty bald and he never said it again that I know of, but that was the first rationale that came out of his mouth - and, I think, the most honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first &#8220;reason&#8221; Bush gave for his veto was, and he actually said this, <b>it would hurt the profits of insurance companies</b> by taking kids out of the private sector and putting them in the public program. That was pretty bald and he never said it again that I know of, but that was the first rationale that came out of his mouth &#8211; and, I think, the most honest.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7382</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back on funerals, they also freak me out.  I don&#039;t do so good in Hospitals either.  My mom works in a home for the elderly.  When we fly home to visit, I have to go to her work at least once, and I always feel very tense when I go.

I gotta thing, leave me alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back on funerals, they also freak me out.  I don&#8217;t do so good in Hospitals either.  My mom works in a home for the elderly.  When we fly home to visit, I have to go to her work at least once, and I always feel very tense when I go.</p>
<p>I gotta thing, leave me alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, especially after I just did a quick look up and found out that Drake voted AGAINST this.

I need to make a rule for this in my rules of politics.

Never invite a Liberal Blogger over for tea and crumpets.  It will get ugly.

Damn I&#039;m pumped to go to this thing.  &quot;Yes, Congresswoman.  Could you explain why you voted against the SCHIP renewal bill which would have provided health care for up to four million children currently doing with out?  kthxbai!&quot;

At this point, Thelma Drake better be hoping I go to that funeral and that it coincides with her little get together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, especially after I just did a quick look up and found out that Drake voted AGAINST this.</p>
<p>I need to make a rule for this in my rules of politics.</p>
<p>Never invite a Liberal Blogger over for tea and crumpets.  It will get ugly.</p>
<p>Damn I&#8217;m pumped to go to this thing.  &#8220;Yes, Congresswoman.  Could you explain why you voted against the SCHIP renewal bill which would have provided health care for up to four million children currently doing with out?  kthxbai!&#8221;</p>
<p>At this point, Thelma Drake better be hoping I go to that funeral and that it coincides with her little get together.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.  But families like to see a big crowd in attendance, so if for no other reason, I go to these things to add to the crowd.  I know that sounds weird, but it means a lot to the family.  Funerals and weddings; lots of people are always good.  I&#039;m not really helping your argument here, am I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  But families like to see a big crowd in attendance, so if for no other reason, I go to these things to add to the crowd.  I know that sounds weird, but it means a lot to the family.  Funerals and weddings; lots of people are always good.  I&#8217;m not really helping your argument here, am I?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7372</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh. It&#039;s alright, it was actually someone I never met before.  I just know it was my wife&#039;s coworker and she passed away due to cancer.  I don&#039;t deal well with funerals, and am actually hoping not to go.  Particularly, I don&#039;t deal well with funerals for people I never knew because I feel bad for not feeling the level of grief of those who are so much closer to the deceased.  I feel like I&#039;m barging in or something, you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh. It&#8217;s alright, it was actually someone I never met before.  I just know it was my wife&#8217;s coworker and she passed away due to cancer.  I don&#8217;t deal well with funerals, and am actually hoping not to go.  Particularly, I don&#8217;t deal well with funerals for people I never knew because I feel bad for not feeling the level of grief of those who are so much closer to the deceased.  I feel like I&#8217;m barging in or something, you know?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  No, it was directed at Health Care BS links.  (Sorry, regarding your personal  note there.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK.  No, it was directed at Health Care BS links.  (Sorry, regarding your personal  note there.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7368</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also meant to say that I think it&#039;s doable.  I think it&#039;s VERY doable.

Also, and this is the idealist in me, but I&#039;m also hoping that once Republicans slap Bush in the face on this and realize the earth won&#039;t open up and swallow them whole, they&#039;ll be a little less standoffish on other measures like Iraq.  Aside from helping disadvantaged kids, this may help Republicans learn that doing what the people want them to do may actually be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also meant to say that I think it&#8217;s doable.  I think it&#8217;s VERY doable.</p>
<p>Also, and this is the idealist in me, but I&#8217;m also hoping that once Republicans slap Bush in the face on this and realize the earth won&#8217;t open up and swallow them whole, they&#8217;ll be a little less standoffish on other measures like Iraq.  Aside from helping disadvantaged kids, this may help Republicans learn that doing what the people want them to do may actually be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7367</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kinda hoping that that wasn&#039;t directed at me!

So here&#039;s some not good news, but not entirely bad.  Both congress and the White House have already stipulated that they will fund the program at its current levels until November which will at least give Congress enough time to put together an override vote.

In the Senate, I would spend just enough time to make sure everyone who voted for the bill will also vote for the veto, and you got a winner there.  IN the House, you got somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen to twenty voters.  I think it&#039;s doable.  That&#039;s only fifteen districts you need to target and make it clear to the offending congressman that should he fail to override the veto, he will most likely not be serving another term.  I would personally target freshmen Reps and those Reps who are looking to face a strong Dem opponent in the upcoming election.

My congresswoman, Thelma Drake, is having a little get together this weekend.  I plan on making SCHIP a key part of the converstaino (that is if I don&#039;t go to a funeral, which is very likely to happen)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda hoping that that wasn&#8217;t directed at me!</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s some not good news, but not entirely bad.  Both congress and the White House have already stipulated that they will fund the program at its current levels until November which will at least give Congress enough time to put together an override vote.</p>
<p>In the Senate, I would spend just enough time to make sure everyone who voted for the bill will also vote for the veto, and you got a winner there.  IN the House, you got somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen to twenty voters.  I think it&#8217;s doable.  That&#8217;s only fifteen districts you need to target and make it clear to the offending congressman that should he fail to override the veto, he will most likely not be serving another term.  I would personally target freshmen Reps and those Reps who are looking to face a strong Dem opponent in the upcoming election.</p>
<p>My congresswoman, Thelma Drake, is having a little get together this weekend.  I plan on making SCHIP a key part of the converstaino (that is if I don&#8217;t go to a funeral, which is very likely to happen)</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/bushs-ugly-veto/comment-page-1#comment-7365</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine.  While they sort all this out, I hope none of the little buggers gets into medical trouble or avoids going to the ER where the wait keeps a parent from work for an entire day.  but what the hell.  Treat people like something on the bottom of your shoe, as long as the process is correct.  Sactimonious whatever, this is a frightening real-life problem for a lot of people.  If only they were the important people we recognize from the tabloids; if only we were thinking clearly.  Where&#039;s MatttB; I some verbal herbs and spices here....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine.  While they sort all this out, I hope none of the little buggers gets into medical trouble or avoids going to the ER where the wait keeps a parent from work for an entire day.  but what the hell.  Treat people like something on the bottom of your shoe, as long as the process is correct.  Sactimonious whatever, this is a frightening real-life problem for a lot of people.  If only they were the important people we recognize from the tabloids; if only we were thinking clearly.  Where&#8217;s MatttB; I some verbal herbs and spices here&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Health Care BS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Care BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Bush Vetoes SCHIP: Sweet!...&lt;/strong&gt;

President Bush delivered on his promise to veto the SCHIP bill sent to him by Congress. This, despite the sanctimonious hokum that will soon be emanating from all manner of faux-progressive poseurs, is good news.
As I have pointed out again and again, ...</description>
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<p>President Bush delivered on his promise to veto the SCHIP bill sent to him by Congress. This, despite the sanctimonious hokum that will soon be emanating from all manner of faux-progressive poseurs, is good news.<br />
As I have pointed out again and again, &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He prefers helping only one person at a time like Terri Schiavo.  And don&#039;t you forget the &quot;snowflake babies&quot;!  He can only help so much; the uninsured are so greedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He prefers helping only one person at a time like Terri Schiavo.  And don&#8217;t you forget the &#8220;snowflake babies&#8221;!  He can only help so much; the uninsured are so greedy.</p>
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