Comments on: The Limbaugh Letter Auction – What the NYT Doesn’t Tell You http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you Wed, 09 May 2012 10:28:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Greg http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-11153 Greg Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:49:34 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-11153 Rush stuck it to Reid and the libs!. He thinks rings around liberals and most conservatives too. Rush stuck it to Reid and the libs!. He thinks rings around liberals and most conservatives too.

]]> By: M. Simon http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10369 M. Simon Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:26:09 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10369 I have just received an anonymous e-mail with a link to a site, <a href="http://www.icallbs.net/blog/?p=245" rel="nofollow">I Call BS</a>, that purports to have a secret recording of Harry Reid's Secretary from Friday morning. You can listen to <a href="http://www.icallbs.net/audio/Reid-vs-Rush.mp3" rel="nofollow">the mp3</a> and judge for yourself. It seems authentic to me. Some one should tell Rush. I have just received an anonymous e-mail with a link to a site, I Call BS, that purports to have a secret recording of Harry Reid’s Secretary from Friday morning. You can listen to the mp3 and judge for yourself. It seems authentic to me.

Some one should tell Rush.

]]> By: btodd http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10361 btodd Sun, 21 Oct 2007 16:26:42 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10361 guys - there is no dialogue between the left and the right. i read these back and forth comments week after week and nothing has changed in years. i would hope that you both are sincerely trying to articulate your stance and edify your opponent, but i fear that neither is occurring. jeff and scott, you are wasting your time with self-proclaimed idiots... that's right, anyone who reads a publication that they loathe, in my book, is an idiot! guys –

there is no dialogue between the left and the right. i read these back and forth comments week after week and nothing has changed in years. i would hope that you both are sincerely trying to articulate your stance and edify your opponent, but i fear that neither is occurring. jeff and scott, you are wasting your time with self-proclaimed idiots… that’s right, anyone who reads a publication that they loathe, in my book, is an idiot!

]]> By: WhoIsJohnGalt http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10342 WhoIsJohnGalt Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:35:34 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10342 Honestly, you have to be a complete nitwit not to understand how much Rush supports the troops. If you listen to him on a regular basis, you also understand how he does NOT demonize troops that are against the war. I've heard him many times take calls from anti-war vets or anti-Iraq war soldiers and he does NOT berate them. He does treat them with respect and thanks them for their service. He disagrees with them, but unless they appear to be a caller claiming to be something they are not, he is respectful of them. His show is #1 on AFARTS for a reason. And there is a big problem with the United States Senate using an official act to try and silence the free speech of an American citizen. THAT was the major point of his flogging Reid with his own club. And from a PR perspective, I just love how he rubbed Reid's nose in his own pile of poop. Betty Casey? Yes, she may be a Rush fan, but she has also contributed to Democrat causes, including donating to Obama's campaign. Honestly, you have to be a complete nitwit not to understand how much Rush supports the troops. If you listen to him on a regular basis, you also understand how he does NOT demonize troops that are against the war. I’ve heard him many times take calls from anti-war vets or anti-Iraq war soldiers and he does NOT berate them. He does treat them with respect and thanks them for their service. He disagrees with them, but unless they appear to be a caller claiming to be something they are not, he is respectful of them. His show is #1 on AFARTS for a reason.

And there is a big problem with the United States Senate using an official act to try and silence the free speech of an American citizen. THAT was the major point of his flogging Reid with his own club. And from a PR perspective, I just love how he rubbed Reid’s nose in his own pile of poop.

Betty Casey? Yes, she may be a Rush fan, but she has also contributed to Democrat causes, including donating to Obama’s campaign.

]]> By: Scott http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10293 Scott Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:32:24 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10293 You lefties never get enough of yourselves. The height of arrogance is that Reid was trying to squash the freedom to speak of a US citizen from the bully pulpit of the Senate. That was bad enough but then 40 other freedom fighters signed on to the cause. It's incredible the ignorance and intolerance shown by you lefty liberals. You are all for choice when in happens to coincide with your Socialist views. But when it doesn't, then you throw the Constitution out on its head. How proud your mothers and teachers must be of you who stick your head in the sand and wouldn't recognize truth if it hit you in the head just so you can play your political games. If you had your way, this country would go to hell in a New York minute! You lefties never get enough of yourselves. The height of arrogance is that Reid was trying to squash the freedom to speak of a US citizen from the bully pulpit of the Senate. That was bad enough but then 40 other freedom fighters signed on to the cause.

It’s incredible the ignorance and intolerance shown by you lefty liberals. You are all for choice when in happens to coincide with your Socialist views. But when it doesn’t, then you throw the Constitution out on its head.

How proud your mothers and teachers must be of you who stick your head in the sand and wouldn’t recognize truth if it hit you in the head just so you can play your political games. If you had your way, this country would go to hell in a New York minute!

]]> By: prying1 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10280 prying1 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:39:14 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10280 Gosh you sound bitter. Gosh you sound bitter.

]]> By: Jeff Weimer http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10238 Jeff Weimer Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:49:57 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10238 I listened to the comment as it was made, and the explanation after the caller left the air. Just because you want to believe it was the other way doesn't make it true. I listened to the comment as it was made, and the explanation after the caller left the air. Just because you want to believe it was the other way doesn’t make it true.

]]> By: mick http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10227 mick Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:23:49 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10227 Sorry, Jeff. Rush may have redacted his website to make it sound that way but there's tape of the original comment and it's perfectly clear what he said. You're buying the excuse he used - a provable lie, btw - to try to weasel out of it, which is SOP for Rush every time he gets caught telling lies. You're too gullible, Jeff. Anybody who hopes to deal with Limbo in the real world needs a healthy dose of skepticism. He's told so many lies in the last 15 years - documented lies, not "liberal" interpretations unfriendly to the Ditto - would take a book the size of Webster's Unabridged just to list. That you're willing to believe a guy with a record like that doesn't say much for either your intelligence or your perception. Rush is a right-wing propagandist, like Fr Coughlin. He doesn't even have a nodding acquaintance with the truth. He attacked as "phony soldiers" anybody in uniform who disagrees with his support for the war, and it's not the first time. He has attacked a group of wounded Iraq vets working against the war, the 12 soldiers who signed a recent anti-war editorial, and Viet Nam vets who've spoken out against it. In fact, some of the language he's used has been even more vicious. "Phony soldiers" is pretty mild for him. He called Max Cleland a "traitor" and claimed he had lied about his wounds. He also once said, "You can agonize or you can trust me. It's easier just to trust me." Is that what you did, Jeff? Turn your brain over to Limbo and let him tell you what the "truth" is? 'Cause that would make you a mindless member of a cult. Are you a cult member, Jeff? Sorry, Jeff. Rush may have redacted his website to make it sound that way but there’s tape of the original comment and it’s perfectly clear what he said. You’re buying the excuse he used – a provable lie, btw – to try to weasel out of it, which is SOP for Rush every time he gets caught telling lies. You’re too gullible, Jeff. Anybody who hopes to deal with Limbo in the real world needs a healthy dose of skepticism. He’s told so many lies in the last 15 years – documented lies, not “liberal” interpretations unfriendly to the Ditto – would take a book the size of Webster’s Unabridged just to list. That you’re willing to believe a guy with a record like that doesn’t say much for either your intelligence or your perception.

Rush is a right-wing propagandist, like Fr Coughlin. He doesn’t even have a nodding acquaintance with the truth. He attacked as “phony soldiers” anybody in uniform who disagrees with his support for the war, and it’s not the first time. He has attacked a group of wounded Iraq vets working against the war, the 12 soldiers who signed a recent anti-war editorial, and Viet Nam vets who’ve spoken out against it. In fact, some of the language he’s used has been even more vicious. “Phony soldiers” is pretty mild for him. He called Max Cleland a “traitor” and claimed he had lied about his wounds.

He also once said, “You can agonize or you can trust me. It’s easier just to trust me.”

Is that what you did, Jeff? Turn your brain over to Limbo and let him tell you what the “truth” is? ‘Cause that would make you a mindless member of a cult. Are you a cult member, Jeff?

]]> By: mick http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10224 mick Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:00:29 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10224 Don't feel bad. Everybody reads it, even its harshest critics. I read it too, obviously, tho not anything like as religiously as I used to. I skim it every day but a week may go by now before I read something that isn't at least partially compromised by misinformation when reporting on Democrats or has information missing from reports on Republicans that would have changed the meaning of the story if it had been included and made it impossible for the reporter to write a glowing rave. This is just an example of why the NYT can't be trusted any more. Still, it remains - unfortunately for American democracy - the paper of record. We kind of <i>have</i> to read it whether we like it or not, no matter how slanted, mistaken, propagandistic, or just plain fucked up it is. It's sort of like when Soviet dissidents had to read Pravda to figure out what was going on and who ther players were. With the NYT, too, you have to read between the lines. Don’t feel bad. Everybody reads it, even its harshest critics. I read it too, obviously, tho not anything like as religiously as I used to. I skim it every day but a week may go by now before I read something that isn’t at least partially compromised by misinformation when reporting on Democrats or has information missing from reports on Republicans that would have changed the meaning of the story if it had been included and made it impossible for the reporter to write a glowing rave. This is just an example of why the NYT can’t be trusted any more. Still, it remains – unfortunately for American democracy – the paper of record. We kind of have to read it whether we like it or not, no matter how slanted, mistaken, propagandistic, or just plain fucked up it is. It’s sort of like when Soviet dissidents had to read Pravda to figure out what was going on and who ther players were. With the NYT, too, you have to read between the lines.

]]> By: Jeff Weimer http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10223 Jeff Weimer Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:59:50 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10223 But the letter WAS an official rebuke by 41 Senators concerning a phony charge leveled against Limbaugh. It was phony, you know. The "phony soldiers" he and the caller were referring to were in fact, not real soldiers - specifically, Jesse MacBeth. They weren't members in uniform who criticized the administration. We have plenty of those, trust me. Reid and the other 40 decided to take this potshot based on a tenuous (at best) claim of Limbaugh slanting against members of the armed Forces. Limbaugh even explained the term on the air, but that has been conveniently forgotten and what they WANTED to believe put in its place. They tried to use their power and influence to shut him up. Whatever you think of him, he's entitled to his opinions, is he not? Limbaugh merely turned the situation to his favor. Wow, you think the Times is right-wing. The very first line in the Times article perpetuates the lie all this is based on: "After Rush Limbaugh referred to Iraq war veterans critical of the war as “phony soldiers,” Which he didn't, as has already been explained. Look it up, transcripts and copies of the recording are available. And you call the Times article a fawning piece. Jeff Weimer Senior Chief, U.S. Navy But the letter WAS an official rebuke by 41 Senators concerning a phony charge leveled against Limbaugh. It was phony, you know. The “phony soldiers” he and the caller were referring to were in fact, not real soldiers – specifically, Jesse MacBeth. They weren’t members in uniform who criticized the administration. We have plenty of those, trust me. Reid and the other 40 decided to take this potshot based on a tenuous (at best) claim of Limbaugh slanting against members of the armed Forces. Limbaugh even explained the term on the air, but that has been conveniently forgotten and what they WANTED to believe put in its place. They tried to use their power and influence to shut him up. Whatever you think of him, he’s entitled to his opinions, is he not? Limbaugh merely turned the situation to his favor.

Wow, you think the Times is right-wing. The very first line in the Times article perpetuates the lie all this is based on:

“After Rush Limbaugh referred to Iraq war veterans critical of the war as “phony soldiers,”

Which he didn’t, as has already been explained. Look it up, transcripts and copies of the recording are available.

And you call the Times article a fawning piece.

Jeff Weimer
Senior Chief, U.S. Navy

]]> By: Chris G http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you/comment-page-1#comment-10220 Chris G Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:41:06 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/the-limbaugh-letter-auction-what-the-nyt-doesnt-tell-you#comment-10220 Bravo. Thanks for the analysis. I loathe the Times yet I read it always. Go figure. Bravo. Thanks for the analysis.

I loathe the Times yet I read it always.

Go figure.

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