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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/transmitting-hate#comment-8505</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Around The Sphere Blog Roundup October 11, 2007...&lt;/strong&gt;


Our linkfest offering readers  links to blogposts from websites of many different viewpoints. Linked posts do NOT necessarily reflect the opinion of TMV or its writers.
FROSTY RECEPTION: The furor continues over the role and/or treatment of 12-year-ol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Around The Sphere Blog Roundup October 11, 2007&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Our linkfest offering readers  links to blogposts from websites of many different viewpoints. Linked posts do NOT necessarily reflect the opinion of TMV or its writers.<br />
FROSTY RECEPTION: The furor continues over the role and/or treatment of 12-year-ol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: matttbastard</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/transmitting-hate#comment-8476</link>
		<dc:creator>matttbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But, then you pick out right wingers sending out sophomoric comments to DailyKos, and you act like the world is coming apart. I mean, last time I tried to engage in debate hear Rat Bastard told me to fuck off (literally).&lt;/em&gt;

 How &lt;em&gt;dare&lt;/em&gt; you! I take &lt;em&gt;great&lt;/em&gt; exception to such libelous slander.  I most certainly  did &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; "literally" tell you to "fuck off."

I graciously invited you to engage in autoeroticism - that is, to "go fuck yourself."

Sheesh - if you're going to get all martyr-iffic and holler for teh &lt;a href="http://tildology.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/mde_appalled.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;fainting couch&lt;/a&gt;, at least have the *ahem* decency to &lt;em&gt;accurately&lt;/em&gt; quote me. :-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But, then you pick out right wingers sending out sophomoric comments to DailyKos, and you act like the world is coming apart. I mean, last time I tried to engage in debate hear Rat Bastard told me to fuck off (literally).</em></p>
<p> How <em>dare</em> you! I take <em>great</em> exception to such libelous slander.  I most certainly  did <em>not</em> &#8220;literally&#8221; tell you to &#8220;fuck off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I graciously invited you to engage in autoeroticism - that is, to &#8220;go fuck yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sheesh - if you&#8217;re going to get all martyr-iffic and holler for teh <a href="http://tildology.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/mde_appalled.jpg" rel="nofollow">fainting couch</a>, at least have the *ahem* decency to <em>accurately</em> quote me. <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(now back to our regularly scheduled interaction embargo.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/transmitting-hate#comment-8413</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*SIGH*

You should know by now I don't care if we can succeed on the radio or not.  Don't matter to me, don't want the fairness doctrine, don't care.  I have become increasingly more hopeful that the internet will eventually take over as the primary medium of political news dissemination and debate.  Let Rush have his little hill for all I care.

Second, it wasn't much ado about nothing.  You can decontextualize or twist his words anyway you wish to see fit, it doesn't change the fact that he said what he did, and it takes a very very large leap of faith to believe he was only talking about one or two bad apples.

I'll back that up with some other observations.  One would be that amid the Frost wars, Rush Limbaugh likened him to those soldiers who had been brainwashed by the left to oppose the Iraq Occupation.  You see, even after the flap he still can't manage to come out and admit that there might actually be some soldiers who serve bravely, yet personally feel that the Iraq Occupation is wrong, and going the wrong way.  He won't do it.

Also, let's not forget that in the same segment that he impugned the honor of those soldiers who don't agree with the Iraq Occupation, he also impugned the honor of Republicans against Iraq as well.  

Third.  I'm not in the habit of defending Kos, but here it should be noted that these letters were not written to Kos, but to Votevets.org, an organization full of Iraq and Afghanistan War veterans who have banded together against the Occupation of Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SIGH*</p>
<p>You should know by now I don&#8217;t care if we can succeed on the radio or not.  Don&#8217;t matter to me, don&#8217;t want the fairness doctrine, don&#8217;t care.  I have become increasingly more hopeful that the internet will eventually take over as the primary medium of political news dissemination and debate.  Let Rush have his little hill for all I care.</p>
<p>Second, it wasn&#8217;t much ado about nothing.  You can decontextualize or twist his words anyway you wish to see fit, it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that he said what he did, and it takes a very very large leap of faith to believe he was only talking about one or two bad apples.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll back that up with some other observations.  One would be that amid the Frost wars, Rush Limbaugh likened him to those soldiers who had been brainwashed by the left to oppose the Iraq Occupation.  You see, even after the flap he still can&#8217;t manage to come out and admit that there might actually be some soldiers who serve bravely, yet personally feel that the Iraq Occupation is wrong, and going the wrong way.  He won&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s not forget that in the same segment that he impugned the honor of those soldiers who don&#8217;t agree with the Iraq Occupation, he also impugned the honor of Republicans against Iraq as well.  </p>
<p>Third.  I&#8217;m not in the habit of defending Kos, but here it should be noted that these letters were not written to Kos, but to Votevets.org, an organization full of Iraq and Afghanistan War veterans who have banded together against the Occupation of Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/transmitting-hate#comment-8412</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a correction for both Kyle and x, in fact Rush Limbaugh's so-called "success" was bought and paid for by a massive advertising campaign on his behalf. He was hired to promote the ultraconservative views of his employer. When the show failed to catch on, that employer launched an advertising blitz that cost $$millions$$ and kept it up until the audience started to grow. Hooper polls early on showed the initial growth came as much from liberals who thought he was a joke tuning in to see what outrageous thing he would say next. Most listeners claimed at the time that they didn't take him seriously.

I suppose it's fair to assume that Rush's opinions as expressed on the show actually are his, but he was hired to sell a specific viewpoint and mercilessly hyped until people were listening. Every time he's caught in a lie (what? 6, 7 times an hour?), he claims to be "an entertainer", not a political scientist or journalist. I think he's right - that's exactly what he is: an entertainer and a hired shill.

I go into it a bit &lt;a href="http://mickarran.com/2003/12/15/this-was-originally-published-on-monday-dec-8-t/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, David Neiwert goes into it in depth &lt;a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/Rush%20Newspeak%20%20Fascism.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (pdf file, HTML links at &lt;a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;David's site&lt;/a&gt; if preferred). If you're interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a correction for both Kyle and x, in fact Rush Limbaugh&#8217;s so-called &#8220;success&#8221; was bought and paid for by a massive advertising campaign on his behalf. He was hired to promote the ultraconservative views of his employer. When the show failed to catch on, that employer launched an advertising blitz that cost $$millions$$ and kept it up until the audience started to grow. Hooper polls early on showed the initial growth came as much from liberals who thought he was a joke tuning in to see what outrageous thing he would say next. Most listeners claimed at the time that they didn&#8217;t take him seriously.</p>
<p>I suppose it&#8217;s fair to assume that Rush&#8217;s opinions as expressed on the show actually are his, but he was hired to sell a specific viewpoint and mercilessly hyped until people were listening. Every time he&#8217;s caught in a lie (what? 6, 7 times an hour?), he claims to be &#8220;an entertainer&#8221;, not a political scientist or journalist. I think he&#8217;s right - that&#8217;s exactly what he is: an entertainer and a hired shill.</p>
<p>I go into it a bit <a href="http://mickarran.com/2003/12/15/this-was-originally-published-on-monday-dec-8-t/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, David Neiwert goes into it in depth <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/Rush%20Newspeak%20%20Fascism.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a> (pdf file, HTML links at <a href="http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">David&#8217;s site</a> if preferred). If you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>By: xranger</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/10/transmitting-hate#comment-8405</link>
		<dc:creator>xranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle, you have me a bit flumoxed on this one. The Rush piece was much ado about nothing, and should die out soon. Strange aside, though, is that I've heard snippets that Henry Waxman has assigned his goons to monitor the program. Strange, that.

But, then you pick out right wingers sending out sophomoric comments to DailyKos, and you act like the world is coming apart. I mean, last time I tried to engage in debate hear Rat Bastard told me to fuck off (literally).

Dry off the cocadile tears. You guys are just upset the left can't succeed on the radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, you have me a bit flumoxed on this one. The Rush piece was much ado about nothing, and should die out soon. Strange aside, though, is that I&#8217;ve heard snippets that Henry Waxman has assigned his goons to monitor the program. Strange, that.</p>
<p>But, then you pick out right wingers sending out sophomoric comments to DailyKos, and you act like the world is coming apart. I mean, last time I tried to engage in debate hear Rat Bastard told me to fuck off (literally).</p>
<p>Dry off the cocadile tears. You guys are just upset the left can&#8217;t succeed on the radio.</p>
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