Comments on: The RWNM: Lost in the High Weeds of War Metaphors http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors Wed, 09 May 2012 10:28:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Buy c heap phentermine online. http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-18906 Buy c heap phentermine online. Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:27:35 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-18906 <strong>Buy phentermine online with paypal....</strong> Buy phentermine online wi. Phentermine for sale buy cheap phentermine online. Buy phentermine online. Buy phentermine online with paypal. Buy phentermine online ch. Buy cheap phentermine online. Buy phentermine online 37.5mg no prescription.... Buy phentermine online with paypal….

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]]> By: I.M. Small http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-13436 I.M. Small Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:55:18 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-13436 SUCH A WORD There is no war on poverty, There is no war on drugs, There is no war on terror--see?-- But are a lot of thugs. It´s "homeland" thugs appall me most, As they ought to know better-- But: using words wrong has a cost, As makes a nation debtor. The "war on this" and "war on that" Indistinguishable "under God," Are an exact equivalent For such a word jihad. SUCH A WORD

There is no war on poverty,
There is no war on drugs,
There is no war on terror–see?–
But are a lot of thugs.

It´s “homeland” thugs appall me most,
As they ought to know better–
But: using words wrong has a cost,
As makes a nation debtor.

The “war on this” and “war on that”
Indistinguishable “under God,”
Are an exact equivalent
For such a word jihad.

]]> By: restau_ranter http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-12883 restau_ranter Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:38:38 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-12883 With all the talk of Tancredo's new immigration/terrorist ad, I wondered if you'd seen the hysterical (fake?) Giuliani ad attacking Hillary's ties to Elliot Spitzer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Sc_E1llpY I mean, c'mon, Tancredo? pay attention to Rudy. With all the talk of Tancredo’s new immigration/terrorist ad, I wondered if you’d seen the hysterical (fake?) Giuliani ad attacking Hillary’s ties to Elliot Spitzer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Sc_E1llpY
I mean, c’mon, Tancredo? pay attention to Rudy.

]]> By: Mark (formerly known as PE) http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-12876 Mark (formerly known as PE) Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:05:14 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-12876 I couldn't agree more with the problems of its overuse. Its brilliance as a marketing strategy as you point out is precisely what makes it a recipe for disaster. The phrase so scares me that the use of it by one Ron Paul supporter awhile back led directly to my eliminating just about any formal association I had with the campaign, and is why my support for him is nowhere near as strong as it once was. I couldn’t agree more with the problems of its overuse. Its brilliance as a marketing strategy as you point out is precisely what makes it a recipe for disaster.

The phrase so scares me that the use of it by one Ron Paul supporter awhile back led directly to my eliminating just about any formal association I had with the campaign, and is why my support for him is nowhere near as strong as it once was.

]]> By: mick http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-12866 mick Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:38:31 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-12866 That's right. I forgot about LBJ. No excuse for that. I realize it's a great marketing tool. What bothers me is how easily it can get out of control when it's overused. The users become committed to it. Before you know where you are, they've talked themselves into believing it. We're perilously close to that point now. There are already cadres of right-wingers who use it literally and believe it's literally true. I think the pundits - Malkin, O'Reilly, Limbo, etc - may use it for marketing purposes but their followers are dead serious. On the religious right, tens of thousands of fundamentalists believe the war is literal and that they've been called to be God's Warriors in the Fight Against Evil. Islamic extremism began with this kind of rhetoric. White supremacists justified the lynchings of blacks with exactly this rhetoric. Hitler used this rhetoric to start a world war. It's very dangerous. It always precedes genocide, ethnic cleansing, and the creation of fascist states. I don't like where this is going. That’s right. I forgot about LBJ. No excuse for that.

I realize it’s a great marketing tool. What bothers me is how easily it can get out of control when it’s overused. The users become committed to it. Before you know where you are, they’ve talked themselves into believing it. We’re perilously close to that point now. There are already cadres of right-wingers who use it literally and believe it’s literally true. I think the pundits – Malkin, O’Reilly, Limbo, etc – may use it for marketing purposes but their followers are dead serious. On the religious right, tens of thousands of fundamentalists believe the war is literal and that they’ve been called to be God’s Warriors in the Fight Against Evil. Islamic extremism began with this kind of rhetoric. White supremacists justified the lynchings of blacks with exactly this rhetoric. Hitler used this rhetoric to start a world war.

It’s very dangerous. It always precedes genocide, ethnic cleansing, and the creation of fascist states. I don’t like where this is going.

]]> By: Mark (formerly known as PE) http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-12863 Mark (formerly known as PE) Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:27:07 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-12863 In fairness, LBJ started this nonsense with his "War on Poverty." Declaring "war" on anything is a brilliant marketing strategy that allows you to engage in completely irrational behavior with the defense being that the ends justify the means, because hey "we're at war." Of course, it's also a great way to infuriate and unite your opponents into thinking that you're at war with them (and therefore you need to fight back vehemently), which is why Malkin coins the "War on Thanksgiving" phrase. In fairness, LBJ started this nonsense with his “War on Poverty.” Declaring “war” on anything is a brilliant marketing strategy that allows you to engage in completely irrational behavior with the defense being that the ends justify the means, because hey “we’re at war.” Of course, it’s also a great way to infuriate and unite your opponents into thinking that you’re at war with them (and therefore you need to fight back vehemently), which is why Malkin coins the “War on Thanksgiving” phrase.

]]> By: My Personal Blog » The RWNM: Lost in the High Weeds of War Metaphors http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors/comment-page-1#comment-12849 My Personal Blog » The RWNM: Lost in the High Weeds of War Metaphors Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:10:41 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/11/the-rwnm-lost-in-the-high-weeds-of-war-metaphors#comment-12849 [...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt The wingnutosphere is at it again. Malkin has discovered the seeds of the next Islamofascist attack on Christian/American culture: Thanksgiving. Well, O’Reilly has The War on Christmas patented, so she, as one of the Right’s leading Culture Warriors, needed to find her own. No doubt Sean Hannity will “discover” a War on Easter in April. I’m not going to bother pointing out that Malkin’s argument is foolish, absurdly exaggerated, and fundamentally mere hysterical whining because somebody dared [...] [...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt The wingnutosphere is at it again. Malkin has discovered the seeds of the next Islamofascist attack on Christian/American culture: Thanksgiving. Well, O’Reilly has The War on Christmas patented, so she, as one of the Right’s leading Culture Warriors, needed to find her own. No doubt Sean Hannity will “discover” a War on Easter in April. I’m not going to bother pointing out that Malkin’s argument is foolish, absurdly exaggerated, and fundamentally mere hysterical whining because somebody dared [...]

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