Comments on: Religious Counsel

By: cheryl

cheryl — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:55:46 +0000

Finally, someone is speaking the truth. I wish those hater at Fox news, msnbc, cnn and other media outlets would get this letter. I won’t mentions names, I think we no who they are. They need to read this, but they wll find something stupid to say like “Obama was in the churck for twentyu years”. (dumb!)

By: lkm55

lkm55 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:28:36 +0000

In context or out of context…this is how the game is played.

By: Kyle E. Moore

Kyle E. Moore — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:41:36 +0000

I’m gonna answer this more in full later…

I did want to quickly make the point that it’s pretty interesting how badly Wright was taken out of context… still… it would be very nice of him to kindly STFU for a short spell.

That’s all.

By: lkm55

lkm55 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:21:30 +0000

The Democratic party wasn’t content to make fun of the religous right, they felt the need to coop some of their values to get bak the blue dog democrats. Clinton and Obama have both stated their religous beliefs during the campaign, going so far as to profess a belief in Jesus Christ. They opened the door to this discussion and are finding it very hard to shut. Unfortunately for both, they are members of mainline protestant churches that for the most part vote democratic anyway.

Mainline Prostestant churches (Methodist, Episcopalian, and United Church of Christ) have been losing members for the last 20 years to Evangeligal churches. The decline of membership is largly due to their shift to the left on social values during the sixties and seventies. The Episcopalian church at this moment is splitting in half over gay ministers and gay marraige. Being a Methodist or a member of UCC will not get them any votes in the bible belt.

As for Rev. Wright, I hold him to the same standard I’ve held jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson. When you’re speaking and know you’re on tape watch what you say, because your oppenents will use it against you, in or out of context.

As for Hillary? If she can’t win she is going to damage Obama to the point he can’t get elected, then run again in 2012.

By: Kyle E. Moore

Kyle E. Moore — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:39:46 +0000

Actually, and you’re kinda missing the core aspect behind what snyder is saying. Have you seen the sermons in question put back into context? I mean. I’ve now seen two of the condemned speeches put back into context and I have to step back from my own condemnations.

The 911 speech, for instance, the “chickens coming home to roost” was paraphrased from one of Reagan’s ambassadors, and put back in context was ultimately a message of peace, turning the other cheek, and stopping the cycle of violence by addressing our own actions.

As for “God Damn America” that still stings a bit, but what we are looking at is a sermon that shows how America changes, how it can improve, and how it does improve, and even improved under the Clinton administration, but then under the Bush administration things started to go the wrong way again.

The intent of Snyder’s comments was to do the exact opposite of what you are doing and instead of taking the easy narrative, the indignant narraitve, to actually go deeper and listen to the conversation and be a part of that conversation.

By: Talbot

Talbot — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:17:11 +0000

For the sake of argument this pastor clearly is trying to reconcile with his community instead of like Wright which clearly spreads a message of hate, bigotry and separatism. I would go to a church with this pastor. I would never attend a church where Wright spreads hate no matter the group he uses as a target. In this I happen to completely agree with Hillary *shudders*