Comments on: Snatching The Bloom Off The Rose http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose Loaning brain cells to those in need since 2003 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:30:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Kyle E. Moore http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose/comment-page-1#comment-26372 Kyle E. Moore Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:16:10 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose#comment-26372 You know, you're sort of right, but at the same time, that's no reason to pull him. Indeed, your evidence here is exactly the point; throwing up someone who seems to have unimpeachable patriotic credibility doesn't work, not against Republicans, so why bother trying? Similar situation with Hillary Clinton too. One of her recent arguments has been that essentially she's McCain lite, but that doesn't work either. Republicans have essentially established a Deon Sanders defense at this point; if you'll remember the last time the Niners won the Super Bowl, one of their key components was Deon Sanders-he effectively eliminated whichever receiver was the opposing team's greatest weapon by virtue of simply covering him. Because so few teams really challenged him, few teams could put up a credible offense against him. Right now Republicans have Democrats afraid of drawing serious distinctions between our candidates and theirs. They have us capitulating because we're afraid we'll get pegged as too liberal, or soft on Terrorism, or any number of memes that prevent us from moving the debate to something we can actually win. So, yeah, Obama's got Wright. Clinton's got Ferraro, McCain's got Hagee and Parsley. I say who cares? If we're really lucky, this whole situation is going to flash out and be little more than a weak punch by the time we get to the General Election, but the big point is this. If we go into every fight afraid of getting hit, we're never going to win any of them. You know, you’re sort of right, but at the same time, that’s no reason to pull him. Indeed, your evidence here is exactly the point; throwing up someone who seems to have unimpeachable patriotic credibility doesn’t work, not against Republicans, so why bother trying?

Similar situation with Hillary Clinton too. One of her recent arguments has been that essentially she’s McCain lite, but that doesn’t work either.

Republicans have essentially established a Deon Sanders defense at this point; if you’ll remember the last time the Niners won the Super Bowl, one of their key components was Deon Sanders-he effectively eliminated whichever receiver was the opposing team’s greatest weapon by virtue of simply covering him. Because so few teams really challenged him, few teams could put up a credible offense against him.

Right now Republicans have Democrats afraid of drawing serious distinctions between our candidates and theirs. They have us capitulating because we’re afraid we’ll get pegged as too liberal, or soft on Terrorism, or any number of memes that prevent us from moving the debate to something we can actually win.

So, yeah, Obama’s got Wright. Clinton’s got Ferraro, McCain’s got Hagee and Parsley. I say who cares? If we’re really lucky, this whole situation is going to flash out and be little more than a weak punch by the time we get to the General Election, but the big point is this.

If we go into every fight afraid of getting hit, we’re never going to win any of them.

]]> By: tas http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose/comment-page-1#comment-26361 tas Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:31:33 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose#comment-26361 My biggest fear at this point is, should Obama win the nomination (which despite his delegate lead, is still a huge "if"), all McCain has to do during the general election is play selected soundbites of Pastor Wright and hammer away at Obama's connection to him. The strength of Obama's electability comes from his ability to get the independent vote -- the middle. But if he's abe to be portaryed as the unpatriotic candidate by the right, then Obama's cred with independent voters goes down the tubes. At that point, I seriously doubt he could win in the general election. And let's face it, the right has had less to work with when impugning the patriotism of anyone on the left. They got a one-limbed Vietnam vet voted out of office by saying he supported terrorism, and there's also the BS Swift Boat Vets against Kerry from 2004. My biggest fear at this point is, should Obama win the nomination (which despite his delegate lead, is still a huge “if”), all McCain has to do during the general election is play selected soundbites of Pastor Wright and hammer away at Obama’s connection to him. The strength of Obama’s electability comes from his ability to get the independent vote — the middle. But if he’s abe to be portaryed as the unpatriotic candidate by the right, then Obama’s cred with independent voters goes down the tubes. At that point, I seriously doubt he could win in the general election.

And let’s face it, the right has had less to work with when impugning the patriotism of anyone on the left. They got a one-limbed Vietnam vet voted out of office by saying he supported terrorism, and there’s also the BS Swift Boat Vets against Kerry from 2004.

]]> By: Kyle E. Moore http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose/comment-page-1#comment-26344 Kyle E. Moore Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:35:36 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose#comment-26344 Not hardly, I wish he were, but a lot of this stuff is damaging him not because there's a whole lot of validity to his claims, but because no one will let these stories die they way they should. Not hardly, I wish he were, but a lot of this stuff is damaging him not because there’s a whole lot of validity to his claims, but because no one will let these stories die they way they should.

]]> By: rawdawgbuffalo http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose/comment-page-1#comment-26343 rawdawgbuffalo Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:31:03 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/snatching-the-bloom-off-the-rose#comment-26343 he is the teflon canidate LOL he is the teflon canidate LOL

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