We’re going different ways on this, though, which is awesome because it means we’re covering more bases.

My point is that, when we, and I mean we in a purely political we=those who are a part of an active political coalition, whether you want to talk Democrats or progressives, or, the strange liberal/libertarian coalition, whatever. That we needs to realize we’ve covered this ground and we need to press further.

But you are also incredibly right. We, as in the majority of folks that are looking at Bush’s administration as a failure (69 dudes!), are average America.

No Oil Barons working here, as far as I know.!

Good comment.

“We already got a majority of Americans with us on Iraq being a bad thing, we need to quit flogging the dead horse and move on to the next argument.”

And of course you’re absolutely right, we do. But I wonder why you said it that way, because to me it seems that the way you said that indicates that “we” have managed to get “a majority of Americans” to agree with us, which linguistically seperates us from the majority of Americans.

In truth, WE ARE that majority.

It’s obviously a small difference, and very subtle - I’m sure I’ve made similar statements with similar phrasing. But I think noticing that sort of language is critical to fighting the Republicans. They are experts at convincing Americans that the Republicans represent the whole country, and that Democrats are liberal elitists. And I think we subconsciously buy it - we feel like we’ve got a handle on things, and we don’t understand why “they” - the average American - doesn’t get it.

But let’s face it - we ARE the average American. I’m a night club DJ on the weekends and I work retail during the week. You were a serviceman and now you have a regular desk job. We are not oil barons or Bill O’Reilly. We are as average as they come, and there’s no shame in that.

Anyway, this is sort of a random tanget.