Co-opting the Nomination

The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder is reporting something that, in a sane world, would just be down-right humorous. Unfortunately for us the modern political reality is rarely ever sane.

A Clinton insider who served as ex campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle’s executive assistant for several years has set up a new website, http://www.voteboth.com/ and plans to register with the Federal Election Commission today.

VoteBoth urges Democrats to support a joint Clinton-Obama ticket.

Its creator, Adam Parkhomenko, resigned from the campaign three weeks ago.

The idea that this “Dream Ticket” would be acceptable to anyone but the hardcore Clinton supporters is, on its face, laughable. Unfortunately for my sleep-deprived mind (and the nation at large) Mr. Parkhomenko isn’t joking.

There’s zero chance that the runner-up candidate, who’s trailing in the popular vote and in second place in the delegate count, will be installed as the head of a joint-ticket with the person in the lead as VP. It’s just not going to happen. Barring an extremely unlikely, and possible party-shattering, usurpation upset move by party elites this is a non-issue. Remind me though, didn’t we just here though that this elections “not a coronation”? What else would you call putting Hillary at the head of a joint Clinton/Obama ticket?

Let’s set aside that off-the-wall notion for a second as the lunacy it is and consider a move slightly less out there: A joint Obama/Clinton ticket. The question then becomes, “What does Hillary bring to the table?”. You’re going to have to help me out here, because aside from the Taylor Marsh crowd and high negatives I’m drawing a blank. John Cole chimes in on this at Balloon Juice but what really caught my eye was a comment by his reader Fwiffo:

The thing is, other than trying to quell the sour grapes of the HillaryIs44 crowd, what would be the point of picking Hillary as VP? And if somebody is seriously threatening to vote for 100 more years of war out of spite, what are the odds a VP nod is really gonna bring them back from the edge?

Seriously, what does she bring to the ticket?

If he wants to reinforce his progressive cred, she is not the best choice. If he wants somebody with populist appeal, Sherrod Brown or John Edwards would be a better pick. If he wants to reinforce the “change” or “outside the beltway” thing, he really shouldn’t choose the Clintons.

If he wants to court cross-over votes, why not pick somebody who actually has cross-over appeal (e.g., and God forbid, Chuck Hagel)?

If he wants to bolster his executive experience, he should choose a governor. If he wants to bolster his foreign policy cred, he should choose somebody like Bill Richardson. If he wants to bring “experience” in the general sense, he could pick somebody like Biden (God forbid) or Dodd.

If he wants to pick a woman, why not pick one who has lower negatives? If he wants to court Latinos, Bill Richardson would be the obvious choice.

If he wants to pursue an electoral vote strategy with his VP pick, Virginia or Ohio would be a bigger get than Arkansas.

Again I ask, other than making the “unity” people swoon with swoonyness, what does she bring to the ticket?

All of this leads me to the same conclusion as Al Giordano: this isn’t so much about the “dream ticket” as a fundraising move and a hail mary move to stop Clinton’s supporters from switching their support.

What this is really about is an attempt to stop the bleeding of Clinton’s own “soft” supporters who have been moving into the undecided camp and then toward Obama (as the recent North Carolina and Pennsylvania polls have demonstrated). It’s not so much about wooing Obama supporters as it is to fool Clinton’s own base into thinking that such a ticket is possible (it’s not) and that they can get “two for one” if they stay on the plantation.

The website itself is nothing but a mailing list collector: viewers are shown a single page asking for their email and personal data. When all is said and done, Mr. Parkhomenko will be the owner of the email list of the most gullible suckers in America. Maybe that’s also one of the project’s goals, because fools and their money are soon parted.

The Political Machine’s Tommy Christopher (who scores bonus points for his RvB reference) has contacted both campaigns to get their take on this. So far the Obama camps declined to comment and nothing back from Clinton.

(editorial blessing by DrGail)

5 Responses to “Co-opting the Nomination”

  1. SteveS says:

    “Let’s set aside that off-the-wall notion for a second as the lunacy it is and consider a move slightly less out there: A joint Obama/Clinton ticket. The question then becomes, “What does Hillary bring to the table?”

    She brings her supporters. Certainly you have seen polls that show up to 25% of Clinton supporters will vote for McCain if Obama is the nominee. Obama cannot win with that fact.

    Obama loses to McCain
    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Apr05.html

    Clinton defeats McCain
    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/Apr05.html

    I guess it’s how bad do you want to keep a Republican out of the White House? It seems Obama supporters are more interested in keeping a Clinton out of the White House than a Republican.

    From Rasmussen:
    Perhaps the only disturbing news for Obama in the survey is that most Clinton voters (56%) say they are not likely to vote for the Illinois Senator in the general election against John McCain. A month ago, 45% of Clinton voters said they were not likely to vote for Obama against McCain.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/north_carolina/north_carolina_democratic_primary

  2. Chief says:

    When ‘push comes to shove’ after Obama (as the noninee) fillets McCain into a dozen very thin pieces, those Hillary Dems will be voting for Obama in the General.

    Obama and his staff will turn McCain every which way but loose.

  3. terry says:

    i feel a little sick about the fact that , our dem party is torn between two history making presidential candidates. i feel the only way to truely connect the two halves, is to vote both. I also believe that this has been very good for the party, because of the new voters registured. how can we allow half of the dem party to feel disenfranchised. if barack obama, and hillary clinton, really want what is best for the american people, the wil both agree to this idea.

  4. terry says:

    if barack obama truely cared for the other half of the dem party, he would take hillary as his running mate. i’m sure hillary would do the same. hillary would bring the entire other half of the dems, as well as all the states he lost…..

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