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		<title>By: Cee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I adamantly support the right of Israel to exist

Chief,

I'll support their right to exist when they establish some permanent borders. 
Stealing land and making enemies doesn't give them any rights that anyone needs to abide by.
Harsh? You bet. 'm at the end of my tolerance. 
The other day someone from a road crew leaned a piece of heavy equipment against one of my immature pine trees. I had a fit. 
Imagine that YOU are the following citizens?
Imagine how these farmers feel who see their source of income destroyed!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/15/israelandthepalestinians/print

"How would you feel when you've spent 20 years finishing your life's project?" said Suleiman, 38, a teacher. He began moving his furniture out after the letter, from the civil administration of Judea and Samaria, the defence ministry department responsible for the Israeli-occupied West Bank, came on January 31. Now there are just a couple of plastic chairs in his front room and in the hallway the carpets are rolled up and ready to be moved. Clothes are piled on the floor and the shelves are empty, save for a stack of documents charting the story of the impending demolition. His brother, Husam, has already left the ground floor flat but the new washing machine and fridge stand still wrapped in plastic. Suleiman, his wife and two children wait for the bulldozers.

"Everything I did in my life was for what's now inside this house and now it's going to be destroyed," said Suleiman. "It's very hard for me to find somewhere else to live."



The Israeli government defends the continued settlement construction particularly in the major settlements which it calls "population centres", saying it will not build new settlements or expropriate more land. "In the population centres and in Jerusalem the reality on the ground will not be the same in the future as it is today," Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert said last month. "There will be more additional building as part of the reality of life and this is something that was explained ..."

Not all the cases of demolition involve homes. In January, Israeli forces uprooted 3,200 trees, destroyed water cisterns and stone terraces in fields near Beit Ula, close to Hebron, in the southern West Bank. Again this was in area C. The civil administration said the demolition was an "enforcement activity" carried out after legal warnings.

But in this case the target was a €64,000 (£51,000) project from the European commission which began two years ago to provide a livelihood for the villagers, several of whom also put their own money into the planting.

"It was a tragedy for us," said Sami al-Adam, 46, a farmer who had put in 45,000 shekels. "They're tearing me out by my roots. They want to destroy Palestinian farmers psychologically and economically."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I adamantly support the right of Israel to exist</p>
<p>Chief,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll support their right to exist when they establish some permanent borders.<br />
Stealing land and making enemies doesn&#8217;t give them any rights that anyone needs to abide by.<br />
Harsh? You bet. &#8216;m at the end of my tolerance.<br />
The other day someone from a road crew leaned a piece of heavy equipment against one of my immature pine trees. I had a fit.<br />
Imagine that YOU are the following citizens?<br />
Imagine how these farmers feel who see their source of income destroyed!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/15/israelandthepalestinians/print" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/15/israelandthepalestinians/print</a></p>
<p>&#8220;How would you feel when you&#8217;ve spent 20 years finishing your life&#8217;s project?&#8221; said Suleiman, 38, a teacher. He began moving his furniture out after the letter, from the civil administration of Judea and Samaria, the defence ministry department responsible for the Israeli-occupied West Bank, came on January 31. Now there are just a couple of plastic chairs in his front room and in the hallway the carpets are rolled up and ready to be moved. Clothes are piled on the floor and the shelves are empty, save for a stack of documents charting the story of the impending demolition. His brother, Husam, has already left the ground floor flat but the new washing machine and fridge stand still wrapped in plastic. Suleiman, his wife and two children wait for the bulldozers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Everything I did in my life was for what&#8217;s now inside this house and now it&#8217;s going to be destroyed,&#8221; said Suleiman. &#8220;It&#8217;s very hard for me to find somewhere else to live.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Israeli government defends the continued settlement construction particularly in the major settlements which it calls &#8220;population centres&#8221;, saying it will not build new settlements or expropriate more land. &#8220;In the population centres and in Jerusalem the reality on the ground will not be the same in the future as it is today,&#8221; Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert said last month. &#8220;There will be more additional building as part of the reality of life and this is something that was explained &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Not all the cases of demolition involve homes. In January, Israeli forces uprooted 3,200 trees, destroyed water cisterns and stone terraces in fields near Beit Ula, close to Hebron, in the southern West Bank. Again this was in area C. The civil administration said the demolition was an &#8220;enforcement activity&#8221; carried out after legal warnings.</p>
<p>But in this case the target was a €64,000 (£51,000) project from the European commission which began two years ago to provide a livelihood for the villagers, several of whom also put their own money into the planting.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was a tragedy for us,&#8221; said Sami al-Adam, 46, a farmer who had put in 45,000 shekels. &#8220;They&#8217;re tearing me out by my roots. They want to destroy Palestinian farmers psychologically and economically.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DONALD LAFACE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONALD LAFACE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't particularily care for Israell and it's Apartheid ways that they blatantly get away with,they used to try and make everyone feel guilty for how the Nazis killed under a nuts direct order 6-7 million Jews ,but let's all forget about the 25+ million Russians that the Nazis erradicated,or the millions of others .Yet Israell has today become those Nazis,you wish to call me anti-semetic,knock yourself out,first look up the word semetic,it's a stolen word like the word Gay!..Granted not all Israellis dislike the Palestinean who's land was stolen peoples divided,thrown into refugee camps these are the Israellis native to the lands the ones who lived side by side with the arab,all across the lands,not the ones from europe,!!We helped create our own demons and now we're made to pay for that!,by the way! my now x-partner and most of those at our retired Advertising business happened to be Jews,for most of our adult lives we worked and enjoyed life together,they too disliked the Israelli,and many have Israelli relatives they didn't care for because of their fucking arrogance,I'm an Athiest! and dislike all religions as they,among others are the creators of hate and turmoil,...The uncivilized conqueor other's lands...and we call ourselves civilized,nope! we're still in the caves still worship unseen beings! .........sorry! call me anti-semite? catholic christian,......Carter recently went to talk w/ the leaders of Hamas,there's where the news was ,he was critisized!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t particularily care for Israell and it&#8217;s Apartheid ways that they blatantly get away with,they used to try and make everyone feel guilty for how the Nazis killed under a nuts direct order 6-7 million Jews ,but let&#8217;s all forget about the 25+ million Russians that the Nazis erradicated,or the millions of others .Yet Israell has today become those Nazis,you wish to call me anti-semetic,knock yourself out,first look up the word semetic,it&#8217;s a stolen word like the word Gay!..Granted not all Israellis dislike the Palestinean who&#8217;s land was stolen peoples divided,thrown into refugee camps these are the Israellis native to the lands the ones who lived side by side with the arab,all across the lands,not the ones from europe,!!We helped create our own demons and now we&#8217;re made to pay for that!,by the way! my now x-partner and most of those at our retired Advertising business happened to be Jews,for most of our adult lives we worked and enjoyed life together,they too disliked the Israelli,and many have Israelli relatives they didn&#8217;t care for because of their fucking arrogance,I&#8217;m an Athiest! and dislike all religions as they,among others are the creators of hate and turmoil,&#8230;The uncivilized conqueor other&#8217;s lands&#8230;and we call ourselves civilized,nope! we&#8217;re still in the caves still worship unseen beings! &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;sorry! call me anti-semite? catholic christian,&#8230;&#8230;Carter recently went to talk w/ the leaders of Hamas,there&#8217;s where the news was ,he was critisized!!!</p>
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		<title>By: middle east peace</title>
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		<dc:creator>middle east peace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] massive help in the middle east peace project. ...http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2634What Does it Mean to be Pro-Israel? I??m not Jewish, and I??ve only briefly visited Israel.? That was back in 2000. I was a sailor [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] massive help in the middle east peace project. &#8230;http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2634What Does it Mean to be Pro-Israel? I??m not Jewish, and I??ve only briefly visited Israel.? That was back in 2000. I was a sailor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mosquito</title>
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		<dc:creator>mosquito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a much better chance of being able to be pro-Israel and pro-Palestine if you lived in Israel and not the U.S.  A small minority of extremist is currently in control of the Israeli gov.  (sound familiar?)  But the majority of the Israeli people want a peaceful solution and less of a hard nosed military stance.  
     It's difficult to discuss this issue in the U.S.  The Israeli lobby goes after journalists who show any sympathy towards Palestine.  It's so easy to be labeled anti-Semitic  unless you are willing to go along with the extremist minority.  I have Jewish friends who are labeled anti-Semitic for heavens sake.  Amy Goodman at democracynow.org covers the middle east fairly, her grandfather was a rabi, and she's been labeled anti-semitic.....
    I agree with you....in the current climate no candidate can even approach this can of worms and expect to be elected.

buzz...buzz...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a much better chance of being able to be pro-Israel and pro-Palestine if you lived in Israel and not the U.S.  A small minority of extremist is currently in control of the Israeli gov.  (sound familiar?)  But the majority of the Israeli people want a peaceful solution and less of a hard nosed military stance.<br />
     It&#8217;s difficult to discuss this issue in the U.S.  The Israeli lobby goes after journalists who show any sympathy towards Palestine.  It&#8217;s so easy to be labeled anti-Semitic  unless you are willing to go along with the extremist minority.  I have Jewish friends who are labeled anti-Semitic for heavens sake.  Amy Goodman at democracynow.org covers the middle east fairly, her grandfather was a rabi, and she&#8217;s been labeled anti-semitic&#8230;..<br />
    I agree with you&#8230;.in the current climate no candidate can even approach this can of worms and expect to be elected.</p>
<p>buzz&#8230;buzz&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/04/what-does-it-mean-to-be-pro-israel/comment-page-1#comment-30506</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As there will be no "military" solution for the U.S. in Iraq, much as there was not a military solution for France in Algeria, there will not be a military solution for Israel in the Middle East.
Negotiation is not weakness.  Stubborn refusal to negotiate means you have nothing to offer.
I am not Jewish, but I adamantly support the right of Israel to exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As there will be no &#8220;military&#8221; solution for the U.S. in Iraq, much as there was not a military solution for France in Algeria, there will not be a military solution for Israel in the Middle East.<br />
Negotiation is not weakness.  Stubborn refusal to negotiate means you have nothing to offer.<br />
I am not Jewish, but I adamantly support the right of Israel to exist.</p>
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