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	<title>Comments on: Another Day, Another Cease-Fire, Another Add-On to Death and Human Suffering</title>
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		<title>By: DrGail</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/another-day-another-cease-fire-another-add-on-to-death-and-human-suffering/comment-page-1#comment-35884</link>
		<dc:creator>DrGail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 03:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malagent:  It is not, as you and Papa Ray suggest, that we&#039;re quick to call the military murderers.  At least speaking for myself, I am well aware that civilians are frequently killed and displaced when they are in the path of a war, and I understand that putting civilians in harms&#039; way is often a tactic in a guerilla-type war.

In fact, I believe that this is &lt;b&gt;precisely&lt;/b&gt; why we should take every step to avoid wars of this kind.  We should be sure that every diplomatic and other possible avenue for peaceful resolution has been exhausted, and it goes without saying (or at least it should have) that we have an obligation to ensure that we have our damn facts straight beforehand.

There are innocent people being killed -- people who did absolutely nothing wrong beyond trying to live their lives and love their families and do whatever it is they wanted to do in life.  Instead, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

What if it were your neighbor?  Or your daughter?  Or you?

And the military.  Don&#039;t get me started on that.  It is absolutely disgraceful what we&#039;re doing to them.  Making them fight a stupid war that was started by people so vain and blinded by their own ambitions that they can&#039;t even end the damn thing, gracefully or otherwise.  Putting the troops in harms&#039; way for no good reason, risking their lives and bodies and minds without giving them proper protection, training, services, or care after they come home.  Respecting the troops, indeed!

Finally, the media, who you lump in with us &quot;raging left&quot;.  It&#039;s a funny thing about them.  I guess it depends on where you&#039;re sitting, because it sure doesn&#039;t look like they&#039;re very liberal to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malagent:  It is not, as you and Papa Ray suggest, that we&#8217;re quick to call the military murderers.  At least speaking for myself, I am well aware that civilians are frequently killed and displaced when they are in the path of a war, and I understand that putting civilians in harms&#8217; way is often a tactic in a guerilla-type war.</p>
<p>In fact, I believe that this is <b>precisely</b> why we should take every step to avoid wars of this kind.  We should be sure that every diplomatic and other possible avenue for peaceful resolution has been exhausted, and it goes without saying (or at least it should have) that we have an obligation to ensure that we have our damn facts straight beforehand.</p>
<p>There are innocent people being killed &#8212; people who did absolutely nothing wrong beyond trying to live their lives and love their families and do whatever it is they wanted to do in life.  Instead, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.</p>
<p>What if it were your neighbor?  Or your daughter?  Or you?</p>
<p>And the military.  Don&#8217;t get me started on that.  It is absolutely disgraceful what we&#8217;re doing to them.  Making them fight a stupid war that was started by people so vain and blinded by their own ambitions that they can&#8217;t even end the damn thing, gracefully or otherwise.  Putting the troops in harms&#8217; way for no good reason, risking their lives and bodies and minds without giving them proper protection, training, services, or care after they come home.  Respecting the troops, indeed!</p>
<p>Finally, the media, who you lump in with us &#8220;raging left&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a funny thing about them.  I guess it depends on where you&#8217;re sitting, because it sure doesn&#8217;t look like they&#8217;re very liberal to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Malagent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malagent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 00:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So war sucks, people die - what&#039;s new about that?

Just imagine how many civilians would have died by the hands of Saddam and his minions. Or a little later how many would die if the US forces did pack up and leave as so many from left field want.

Whether the conditions are optimal or not the point is that the Iraqi government is getting control of Iraq, which is not a good thing but a very necessary thing.

The terrorists/insurgents and self proclaimed &quot;freedom fighters&quot; in Iraq (and indeed elsewhere) know that US troops do their best to avoid harming civilians but as the commentator above correctly points out the bad guys will take advantage of this. they take over homes, neighborhoods and even cities. that way they can shoot at, fire rockets at and kill troops. then when the troops fight back they can start screaming that &quot;civilians were killed&quot;

Of course the media and the raging left are quick to jump on that bandwagon as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So war sucks, people die &#8211; what&#8217;s new about that?</p>
<p>Just imagine how many civilians would have died by the hands of Saddam and his minions. Or a little later how many would die if the US forces did pack up and leave as so many from left field want.</p>
<p>Whether the conditions are optimal or not the point is that the Iraqi government is getting control of Iraq, which is not a good thing but a very necessary thing.</p>
<p>The terrorists/insurgents and self proclaimed &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221; in Iraq (and indeed elsewhere) know that US troops do their best to avoid harming civilians but as the commentator above correctly points out the bad guys will take advantage of this. they take over homes, neighborhoods and even cities. that way they can shoot at, fire rockets at and kill troops. then when the troops fight back they can start screaming that &#8220;civilians were killed&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course the media and the raging left are quick to jump on that bandwagon as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Papa Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Papa Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While no one likes to see &quot;civilians&quot; killed or injured, the facts are that in the type of war that is being fought in Iraq and the Afghan is being fought right smack dab in the middle of civilians. 

Mostly by design by the &quot;insurgents&quot; and &quot;freedom fighers&quot;. 

They know that the western military is shy when it comes to killing civilians, so they take advantage of it. Also it seems the Iraqis and others don&#039;t seem to understand that they need to leave the area of fighting, they want to stay and protect what meager things that they have. That is to be admired, but it also leads to more civilian deaths and injuries. 

Today&#039;s &quot;precison&quot; weapons are still not so &quot;smart&quot; that they can tell the difference between a civilian and a &quot;freedom fighter&quot; when they are both in a house that just fired a weapon out the window or from the roof. Someday maybe weapons will be developed that just put everybody to sleep for a few hours and allow them to be taken alive.

But that day is long coming, and I suspect if we did have them today, there would be outrage and cries of using &quot;Chemical Warefare&quot; against civilians.

Just be glad that no more were killed or injured. War is not designed to allow just the bad guys to be killed. It is an equal oppertunity killer.

While liberals and progressives bitch and call our millitary murderers, the rest of America prays for all (especially the liberals) and praises our military.

Papa Ray
West Texas
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While no one likes to see &#8220;civilians&#8221; killed or injured, the facts are that in the type of war that is being fought in Iraq and the Afghan is being fought right smack dab in the middle of civilians. </p>
<p>Mostly by design by the &#8220;insurgents&#8221; and &#8220;freedom fighers&#8221;. </p>
<p>They know that the western military is shy when it comes to killing civilians, so they take advantage of it. Also it seems the Iraqis and others don&#8217;t seem to understand that they need to leave the area of fighting, they want to stay and protect what meager things that they have. That is to be admired, but it also leads to more civilian deaths and injuries. </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;precison&#8221; weapons are still not so &#8220;smart&#8221; that they can tell the difference between a civilian and a &#8220;freedom fighter&#8221; when they are both in a house that just fired a weapon out the window or from the roof. Someday maybe weapons will be developed that just put everybody to sleep for a few hours and allow them to be taken alive.</p>
<p>But that day is long coming, and I suspect if we did have them today, there would be outrage and cries of using &#8220;Chemical Warefare&#8221; against civilians.</p>
<p>Just be glad that no more were killed or injured. War is not designed to allow just the bad guys to be killed. It is an equal oppertunity killer.</p>
<p>While liberals and progressives bitch and call our millitary murderers, the rest of America prays for all (especially the liberals) and praises our military.</p>
<p>Papa Ray<br />
West Texas<br />
USA</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Sadr Surrenders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces » Blog Archive &#187; Sadr Surrenders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 22:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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