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	<title>Comments on: I Really Don&#8217;t Think Obama Has a White People Problem</title>
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		<title>By: tg</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting analysis, and you make some good points.  I'd certainly agree that Obama's campaign has made some very smart moves.  But three caveats.  First, Hillary's campaign made some really truly boneheaded moves to give Obama the opening.  And second, while "brilliant" is a fair word for Obama's campaign, they haven't been brilliant enough to put Hillary away in--how long has it been?--three months that they've had her on the ropes.  And third, if his tactical skill is so great, what does it then say about his true level of popular support that he can barely beat Hillary despite outfoxing her at every turn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analysis, and you make some good points.  I&#8217;d certainly agree that Obama&#8217;s campaign has made some very smart moves.  But three caveats.  First, Hillary&#8217;s campaign made some really truly boneheaded moves to give Obama the opening.  And second, while &#8220;brilliant&#8221; is a fair word for Obama&#8217;s campaign, they haven&#8217;t been brilliant enough to put Hillary away in&#8211;how long has it been?&#8211;three months that they&#8217;ve had her on the ropes.  And third, if his tactical skill is so great, what does it then say about his true level of popular support that he can barely beat Hillary despite outfoxing her at every turn?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ginny.  Thanks.  I fully understand your sentiment, but we're talking about two levels of change here, I think.  I mean, and I should have put that in my analysis, and I think I meant to, but this is as good a time to address it as any.

There are two levels of change.  On the one hand, Obama is building one of the biggest coalitions where his supporters REALLY believe in him.  And this speaks much more to what you're talking about.  Every politician has supporters that truly believe in their candidate, and I fully respect that, but Obama I believe took that to a new level.

And then the stuff above is totally separate from that.  This is pure on the ground strategy where, as you mention, everyone's playing one game, and he's playing another.  From a casual, or even better than casual point of view, you don't see it, but there it is.  Once you start asking questions, why is he winning all these caucuses, and why has he lost all of the big states but still kept Clinton from the delegate lead from beginning to end?  And then how is he going to pivot and transform this into a national strategy.

The answers really do start pointing you in this direction where you have to ask yourself, has anyone really done this in electoral politics?

Political machines get passed down from one to the next.  McCain's, for instance, is an amalgamation of the lobbyists he has curried favor with, and Bush's team (note, Karl Rove is a consultant).  Clinton inherited her campaign from her husband.

Obama built his organization almost from scratch, and we're seeing it's effectiveness.  I mean, you really want the scope of how effective his organization is, he lockedin the nomination back in early March; locked it in so well that it has allowed him to weather wright and rezko, and bitter and just about everything that has come down the pike.

That points to an awesomeness of organization that McCain will not be able to rival in the slightest.

Anyway, thanks for stopping by and don't be a stranger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ginny.  Thanks.  I fully understand your sentiment, but we&#8217;re talking about two levels of change here, I think.  I mean, and I should have put that in my analysis, and I think I meant to, but this is as good a time to address it as any.</p>
<p>There are two levels of change.  On the one hand, Obama is building one of the biggest coalitions where his supporters REALLY believe in him.  And this speaks much more to what you&#8217;re talking about.  Every politician has supporters that truly believe in their candidate, and I fully respect that, but Obama I believe took that to a new level.</p>
<p>And then the stuff above is totally separate from that.  This is pure on the ground strategy where, as you mention, everyone&#8217;s playing one game, and he&#8217;s playing another.  From a casual, or even better than casual point of view, you don&#8217;t see it, but there it is.  Once you start asking questions, why is he winning all these caucuses, and why has he lost all of the big states but still kept Clinton from the delegate lead from beginning to end?  And then how is he going to pivot and transform this into a national strategy.</p>
<p>The answers really do start pointing you in this direction where you have to ask yourself, has anyone really done this in electoral politics?</p>
<p>Political machines get passed down from one to the next.  McCain&#8217;s, for instance, is an amalgamation of the lobbyists he has curried favor with, and Bush&#8217;s team (note, Karl Rove is a consultant).  Clinton inherited her campaign from her husband.</p>
<p>Obama built his organization almost from scratch, and we&#8217;re seeing it&#8217;s effectiveness.  I mean, you really want the scope of how effective his organization is, he lockedin the nomination back in early March; locked it in so well that it has allowed him to weather wright and rezko, and bitter and just about everything that has come down the pike.</p>
<p>That points to an awesomeness of organization that McCain will not be able to rival in the slightest.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for stopping by and don&#8217;t be a stranger.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginny in CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny in CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've done a masterful job of weaving together all the loose ideas floating around in my mind the past week or two.

The whole paradigm shift has struck me ever since Edwards dropped out and Obama had taken off. In 4 decades of watching this game, I could not believe how much he had changed it. 

After the last 7 elections that never saw the change we needed in voter engagement, this is blowing us old farts into something that brings to mind the headiness of adolescent love. It's hard to not just give in to the desire to wear the goofy grin even  while keeping the feet from skipping.

One of the dKos diaries yesterday got into the idea that while everyone else has been playing chess, Obama's been playing GO. 

Who knows, maybe my kids will eventually find the world has become a place they are willing to bring their own kids into and I will have some grandkids to tell stories about Barack and the way he changed politics before he ever got to the White House.

And how everyone kept asking WHAT HAS HE CHANGED THAT ALL YOU DELUSIONAL PEOPLE THINK HE CAN REALLY CHANGE THE COUNTRY?  

:) :) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve done a masterful job of weaving together all the loose ideas floating around in my mind the past week or two.</p>
<p>The whole paradigm shift has struck me ever since Edwards dropped out and Obama had taken off. In 4 decades of watching this game, I could not believe how much he had changed it. </p>
<p>After the last 7 elections that never saw the change we needed in voter engagement, this is blowing us old farts into something that brings to mind the headiness of adolescent love. It&#8217;s hard to not just give in to the desire to wear the goofy grin even  while keeping the feet from skipping.</p>
<p>One of the dKos diaries yesterday got into the idea that while everyone else has been playing chess, Obama&#8217;s been playing GO. </p>
<p>Who knows, maybe my kids will eventually find the world has become a place they are willing to bring their own kids into and I will have some grandkids to tell stories about Barack and the way he changed politics before he ever got to the White House.</p>
<p>And how everyone kept asking WHAT HAS HE CHANGED THAT ALL YOU DELUSIONAL PEOPLE THINK HE CAN REALLY CHANGE THE COUNTRY?  </p>
<p> <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> :) <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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