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		<title>By: Wilderness Systems Kayak</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-37156</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilderness Systems Kayak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 10:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wilderness Systems Kayak...&lt;/strong&gt;

An interesting post by a bloger made me......</description>
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<p>An interesting post by a bloger made me&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Two Sides of Guilt &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Two Sides of Guilt &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Monday, Kathy wrote a post called &#8220;The Right’s Neurotic Addiction to War&#8221; that netted some reaction from rightwing bloggers, including the Boston [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36880</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 07:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first government to declare its independence from the Soviet Union was that of Belarus. At the time, the leader of the government in Belarus cited the contamination from Chernobyl and the Soviet response to it as the main spark that triggered the cessation. The Soviets had drafted 600,000 people, gave them shovels, send them into the contaminated areas, and then ignored the resulting health problems. When Belarus revolted at the way they had been treated,  the Soviet Union  could do nothing because it was so drained of military, human, and financial resources by the war in Afghanistan and then Chernobyl. When other members of the Union noticed that nothing happened to Belarus, they soon followed. 

Unless you believe the conspiracy theory that Ronald Reagan helped  fund Al Qaeda which  in turn cost the Soviets dearly in Afghanistan, Reagan had very little to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. There is no reliable source, as far as I know, for the claim  that the Soviet Union spent much money trying to protect Eastern Europe from the American military buildup. If the Soviets did have such a significant military buildup in the area that funding it threatened its very existance, don't you think they would have used it to squash the various revelutions that followed the disaster at Chernobyl ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first government to declare its independence from the Soviet Union was that of Belarus. At the time, the leader of the government in Belarus cited the contamination from Chernobyl and the Soviet response to it as the main spark that triggered the cessation. The Soviets had drafted 600,000 people, gave them shovels, send them into the contaminated areas, and then ignored the resulting health problems. When Belarus revolted at the way they had been treated,  the Soviet Union  could do nothing because it was so drained of military, human, and financial resources by the war in Afghanistan and then Chernobyl. When other members of the Union noticed that nothing happened to Belarus, they soon followed. </p>
<p>Unless you believe the conspiracy theory that Ronald Reagan helped  fund Al Qaeda which  in turn cost the Soviets dearly in Afghanistan, Reagan had very little to do with the fall of the Soviet Union. There is no reliable source, as far as I know, for the claim  that the Soviet Union spent much money trying to protect Eastern Europe from the American military buildup. If the Soviets did have such a significant military buildup in the area that funding it threatened its very existance, don&#8217;t you think they would have used it to squash the various revelutions that followed the disaster at Chernobyl ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36790</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max and brad are not understanding reality.   Here is what is really happening vis-a-vis saber-rattling and foreign countries.  If the foreign country will allow us companies (think United Fruit, for example) to come in and exploit the locals for the U.S companys profit, then the U.S. government treats them nice in the media.  If they won't let us rape their citizens, then we bad-mouth them in the press and maybe set up a coup de etat.

IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.  Stamp it on your brain.  Don't.  Ever.  Forget.  It.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max and brad are not understanding reality.   Here is what is really happening vis-a-vis saber-rattling and foreign countries.  If the foreign country will allow us companies (think United Fruit, for example) to come in and exploit the locals for the U.S companys profit, then the U.S. government treats them nice in the media.  If they won&#8217;t let us rape their citizens, then we bad-mouth them in the press and maybe set up a coup de etat.</p>
<p>IT IS ALL ABOUT MONEY.  Stamp it on your brain.  Don&#8217;t.  Ever.  Forget.  It.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36774</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To those who support Kathy and Jennifer’s view of world events,&lt;/i&gt;

Jennifer?

And my post was not a challenge to the proposition that the Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship and a human rights disaster. My point, clearly stated, is that the Western conviction that the Soviet Union had *global* expansionist ambitions and would have launched a first strike if given half a chance, was incorrect.

And by the way, an understanding of the wrongheadedness of the Cold War is not incompatible with an understanding of the tyrannical nature of the Soviet system with regard to its own people and its orbit of influence in Eastern Europe. In fact, the two are related. By putting the Soviets' backs against the wall, constantly threatening them with the fear of annihilation and forcing them to keep up with a ruinously expensive arms race -- plus, for added measure, publicly demonizing them for 40 years -- the U.S. contributed to the hardening of the Soviet Union's domestic policies. 

Gorbachev's historic achievement consisted in part of creating real democratic reform in the Soviet Union, even while the saber-rattling and arms buildup was still going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To those who support Kathy and Jennifer’s view of world events,</i></p>
<p>Jennifer?</p>
<p>And my post was not a challenge to the proposition that the Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship and a human rights disaster. My point, clearly stated, is that the Western conviction that the Soviet Union had *global* expansionist ambitions and would have launched a first strike if given half a chance, was incorrect.</p>
<p>And by the way, an understanding of the wrongheadedness of the Cold War is not incompatible with an understanding of the tyrannical nature of the Soviet system with regard to its own people and its orbit of influence in Eastern Europe. In fact, the two are related. By putting the Soviets&#8217; backs against the wall, constantly threatening them with the fear of annihilation and forcing them to keep up with a ruinously expensive arms race &#8212; plus, for added measure, publicly demonizing them for 40 years &#8212; the U.S. contributed to the hardening of the Soviet Union&#8217;s domestic policies. </p>
<p>Gorbachev&#8217;s historic achievement consisted in part of creating real democratic reform in the Soviet Union, even while the saber-rattling and arms buildup was still going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36772</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who support Kathy and Jennifer's view of world events, could profit by benchmarking their beliefs and the merits of this understanding by speaking to people who have lived under the domination of the Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who support Kathy and Jennifer&#8217;s view of world events, could profit by benchmarking their beliefs and the merits of this understanding by speaking to people who have lived under the domination of the Soviet Union and other totalitarian regimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perhaps your belief, “The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat.” was because you listened to only that which the U.S. government fed to the media.&lt;/i&gt;

Good points, Chief. And Max, I too "lived through that history." I am 57 years old -- 58 in July. I was born in 1950, a bit over a week after the Korean War began. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis -- vividly -- I was 12 at the time. I remember all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perhaps your belief, “The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat.” was because you listened to only that which the U.S. government fed to the media.</i></p>
<p>Good points, Chief. And Max, I too &#8220;lived through that history.&#8221; I am 57 years old &#8212; 58 in July. I was born in 1950, a bit over a week after the Korean War began. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis &#8212; vividly &#8212; I was 12 at the time. I remember all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Shards, In Your Eyes, Blinding &#187; The Left&#8217;s Pathological Fear of Reality</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36758</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Shards, In Your Eyes, Blinding &#187; The Left&#8217;s Pathological Fear of Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some on the left have been working hard at revising downward Ronald Reagan&#8217;s legacy of ending the Cold War and creating the opportunity, since lost, for the first period of extended [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36756</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max,

Perhaps your belief, "The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat." was because you listened to only that which the U.S. government fed to the media.  Maybe the Soviet Union was reacting to it's belief that the U.S would invade them AGAIN.  In case you were not aware of it (and most Americans are not aware of) the United States invaded Russia in 1919. Check out the book "On A Field Of Red."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p>
<p>Perhaps your belief, &#8220;The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat.&#8221; was because you listened to only that which the U.S. government fed to the media.  Maybe the Soviet Union was reacting to it&#8217;s belief that the U.S would invade them AGAIN.  In case you were not aware of it (and most Americans are not aware of) the United States invaded Russia in 1919. Check out the book &#8220;On A Field Of Red.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36733</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They really do seem to like war.  Richard Weaver thought "Thus the historical soldier is by genus not, the blind unreasoning agent of destruction which some contemporary writers make him out to be. He is rather the defender of the ultimo ratio, the last protector of reason."

Leo Strauss was fascinated by the Peloponnesian war and so are modern wingnuts like Slots Bennett and Victor Davis Hanson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They really do seem to like war.  Richard Weaver thought &#8220;Thus the historical soldier is by genus not, the blind unreasoning agent of destruction which some contemporary writers make him out to be. He is rather the defender of the ultimo ratio, the last protector of reason.&#8221;</p>
<p>Leo Strauss was fascinated by the Peloponnesian war and so are modern wingnuts like Slots Bennett and Victor Davis Hanson.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Just wow.

My understanding of the history of the Soviet Union sincw WWII comes from being old enough to have lived through that history. The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Just wow.</p>
<p>My understanding of the history of the Soviet Union sincw WWII comes from being old enough to have lived through that history. The Soviet Union was a monstrously murderous threat.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliGazette &#187; The Left&#8217;s Pathological Fear of Reality</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36728</link>
		<dc:creator>PoliGazette &#187; The Left&#8217;s Pathological Fear of Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] since lost, for the first period of extended peace since WW II.&#160; The Soviet Union, Kathy says, was never a threat at all.&#160; In fact, the U.S. was the antagonist all the while.&#160;  Ronald [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] since lost, for the first period of extended peace since WW II.&#160; The Soviet Union, Kathy says, was never a threat at all.&#160; In fact, the U.S. was the antagonist all the while.&#160;  Ronald [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden &#187; War Addict History To Laugh At</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36724</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden &#187; War Addict History To Laugh At</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Cold War was a right-wing fantasy. Comments from Left Field:   Ronald Reagan did not “win” the Cold War. If any one person can be credited with bringing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RH Potfry</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36715</link>
		<dc:creator>RH Potfry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much nonsense in so few words.  It's beautiful in an odd way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much nonsense in so few words.  It&#8217;s beautiful in an odd way.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/05/the-rights-neurotic-addiction-to-war#comment-36712</link>
		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who believe so deeply in war have never had to fight one.</description>
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