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	<title>Comments on: Plenty of Insanity, Very Little Common Sense</title>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/06/plenty-of-insanity-very-little-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-38792</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Recently, a left-of-center blogger more prominent than I referred to something I had posted as “insane” meaning, presumably, that he or she disagreed with what I had written....&lt;/i&gt;

No, not meaning that I disagreed. Disagreement is not insane. The indefinite military occupation of Iraq is insane, and the point of view that says we can&#039;t leave Iraq until Iraq is stable and no longer violent is insane because the instability and the violence are both caused and exacerbated by our presence. It&#039;s insane -- i.e., irrational -- to continue advocating a response to a problem that is itself the cause of the problem.

If the definition of insanity is continuing to support a policy that clearly has caused and is worsening the very problems it purports to solve, then it&#039;s insanity to advocate such a policy. And I believe that, far from needing to spending *more* time, we have spent  more than enough time listening to our &quot;crazy people&quot; -- the ones who are responsible for implementing and continuing U.S. policy in Iraq most notably -- given that we can clearly see the policy is not working, and in fact is leading to more harm.

Does that mean that Dave Schuler is clinically insane and needs to be hospitalized? No. Sometimes words are intended to be taken in a more idiomatic sense (as in, &quot;You&#039;re going out without a coat in this cold? You&#039;re insane!&quot;) rather than in their most literal meaning.

The above having been pointed out, you would probably not have been so offended had I said the policy you advocate makes no sense, rather than calling it &quot;insanity.&quot; That being (most likely) true, I apologize for using language that made you feel put down or belittled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Recently, a left-of-center blogger more prominent than I referred to something I had posted as “insane” meaning, presumably, that he or she disagreed with what I had written&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>No, not meaning that I disagreed. Disagreement is not insane. The indefinite military occupation of Iraq is insane, and the point of view that says we can&#8217;t leave Iraq until Iraq is stable and no longer violent is insane because the instability and the violence are both caused and exacerbated by our presence. It&#8217;s insane &#8212; i.e., irrational &#8212; to continue advocating a response to a problem that is itself the cause of the problem.</p>
<p>If the definition of insanity is continuing to support a policy that clearly has caused and is worsening the very problems it purports to solve, then it&#8217;s insanity to advocate such a policy. And I believe that, far from needing to spending *more* time, we have spent  more than enough time listening to our &#8220;crazy people&#8221; &#8212; the ones who are responsible for implementing and continuing U.S. policy in Iraq most notably &#8212; given that we can clearly see the policy is not working, and in fact is leading to more harm.</p>
<p>Does that mean that Dave Schuler is clinically insane and needs to be hospitalized? No. Sometimes words are intended to be taken in a more idiomatic sense (as in, &#8220;You&#8217;re going out without a coat in this cold? You&#8217;re insane!&#8221;) rather than in their most literal meaning.</p>
<p>The above having been pointed out, you would probably not have been so offended had I said the policy you advocate makes no sense, rather than calling it &#8220;insanity.&#8221; That being (most likely) true, I apologize for using language that made you feel put down or belittled.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred F.</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/06/plenty-of-insanity-very-little-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-38789</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the picture is not bleak. If the NY Times reported all of the progress, instead of the bomb blast, you would see that we are truly moving towards a situation that the US can disengage.

The Iraqi army is showing it is ready to defend its country from both within and without. As the article stated, the entire Anbar province is prepared to be handed over to Iraqis; this small area is seemingly the only active sector.

a major indicator is that the Iraqi government and army is acting as a non-sectarian institution. The Shiite-led government went in a lone to quell the Shiite violence in Sadr City, and it worked.

In addition, all three major sectarian groups are continuing the oil-sharing talks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the picture is not bleak. If the NY Times reported all of the progress, instead of the bomb blast, you would see that we are truly moving towards a situation that the US can disengage.</p>
<p>The Iraqi army is showing it is ready to defend its country from both within and without. As the article stated, the entire Anbar province is prepared to be handed over to Iraqis; this small area is seemingly the only active sector.</p>
<p>a major indicator is that the Iraqi government and army is acting as a non-sectarian institution. The Shiite-led government went in a lone to quell the Shiite violence in Sadr City, and it worked.</p>
<p>In addition, all three major sectarian groups are continuing the oil-sharing talks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Glittering Eye</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/06/plenty-of-insanity-very-little-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-38785</link>
		<dc:creator>The Glittering Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;How Not to Disagree...&lt;/strong&gt;

Like everybody else I hate to be called names, insulted, or belittled. Recently, a left-of-center blogger more prominent than I referred to something I had posted as “insane” meaning, presumably, that he or she disagreed with what I had written (th...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>How Not to Disagree&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Like everybody else I hate to be called names, insulted, or belittled. Recently, a left-of-center blogger more prominent than I referred to something I had posted as “insane” meaning, presumably, that he or she disagreed with what I had written (th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Libby</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/06/plenty-of-insanity-very-little-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-38784</link>
		<dc:creator>Libby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link Kathy. It&#039;s just crazy how they keep spinning every temporary development, good or bad, as progress and success when in fact the big picture is so bleak.  For the ordinary people, it just keeps getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link Kathy. It&#8217;s just crazy how they keep spinning every temporary development, good or bad, as progress and success when in fact the big picture is so bleak.  For the ordinary people, it just keeps getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: MediaMentions</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/06/plenty-of-insanity-very-little-common-sense/comment-page-1#comment-38775</link>
		<dc:creator>MediaMentions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a link from today&#039;s online paper regarding the subject. Hope you&#039;ll enjoy! 

http://www.veoh.com/search.html?search=tale+of+Saiunkoku+&amp;searchId=4364389633054850048&amp;settings=%257B%2522searchTerm%2522%253A%2520%2522tale%2520of%2520Saiunkoku%2520%2522%252C%2520%2522order%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522range%2522%253A%2520%2522a%2522%252C%2520%2522runLengthMin%2522%253A%25200%252C%2520%2522runLengthMax%2522%253A%25205%252C%2520%2522category%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522language%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522subtitle%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522type%2522%253A%2520%2522v%2522%252C%2520%2522view%2522%253A%2520%2522detail%2522%252C%2520%2522numResults%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522display%2522%253A%2520%25221110%2522%252C%2520%2522veohOnly%2522%253A%2520true%252C%2520%2522offset%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522reset%2522%253A%2520false%252C%2520%2522searchId%2522%253A%2520%2522354502406121955586%2522%257D#search=%7B%22searchTerm%22%3A%20%22tale%20of%20Saiunkoku%20%22%2C%20%22order%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22range%22%3A%20%22a%22%2C%20%22runLengthMin%22%3A%200%2C%20%22runLengthMax%22%3A%205%2C%20%22category%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22language%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22subtitle%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22type%22%3A%20%22v%22%2C%20%22view%22%3A%20%22detail%22%2C%20%22numResults%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22display%22%3A%20%221110%22%2C%20%22veohOnly%22%3A%20true%2C%20%22offset%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22reset%22%3A%20false%2C%20%22searchId%22%3A%20%22354502406121955586%22%7D

Best regards, 
MediaMentions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a link from today&#8217;s online paper regarding the subject. Hope you&#8217;ll enjoy! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.veoh.com/search.html?search=tale+of+Saiunkoku+&#038;searchId=4364389633054850048&#038;settings=%257B%2522searchTerm%2522%253A%2520%2522tale%2520of%2520Saiunkoku%2520%2522%252C%2520%2522order%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522range%2522%253A%2520%2522a%2522%252C%2520%2522runLengthMin%2522%253A%25200%252C%2520%2522runLengthMax%2522%253A%25205%252C%2520%2522category%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522language%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522subtitle%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522type%2522%253A%2520%2522v%2522%252C%2520%2522view%2522%253A%2520%2522detail%2522%252C%2520%2522numResults%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522display%2522%253A%2520%25221110%2522%252C%2520%2522veohOnly%2522%253A%2520true%252C%2520%2522offset%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522reset%2522%253A%2520false%252C%2520%2522searchId%2522%253A%2520%2522354502406121955586%2522%257D#search=%7B%22searchTerm%22%3A%20%22tale%20of%20Saiunkoku%20%22%2C%20%22order%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22range%22%3A%20%22a%22%2C%20%22runLengthMin%22%3A%200%2C%20%22runLengthMax%22%3A%205%2C%20%22category%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22language%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22subtitle%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22type%22%3A%20%22v%22%2C%20%22view%22%3A%20%22detail%22%2C%20%22numResults%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22display%22%3A%20%221110%22%2C%20%22veohOnly%22%3A%20true%2C%20%22offset%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22reset%22%3A%20false%2C%20%22searchId%22%3A%20%22354502406121955586%22%7D" rel="nofollow">http://www.veoh.com/search.html?search=tale+of+Saiunkoku+&#038;searchId=4364389633054850048&#038;settings=%257B%2522searchTerm%2522%253A%2520%2522tale%2520of%2520Saiunkoku%2520%2522%252C%2520%2522order%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522range%2522%253A%2520%2522a%2522%252C%2520%2522runLengthMin%2522%253A%25200%252C%2520%2522runLengthMax%2522%253A%25205%252C%2520%2522category%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522language%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522subtitle%2522%253A%2520%2522%2522%252C%2520%2522type%2522%253A%2520%2522v%2522%252C%2520%2522view%2522%253A%2520%2522detail%2522%252C%2520%2522numResults%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522display%2522%253A%2520%25221110%2522%252C%2520%2522veohOnly%2522%253A%2520true%252C%2520%2522offset%2522%253A%252020%252C%2520%2522reset%2522%253A%2520false%252C%2520%2522searchId%2522%253A%2520%2522354502406121955586%2522%257D#search=%7B%22searchTerm%22%3A%20%22tale%20of%20Saiunkoku%20%22%2C%20%22order%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22range%22%3A%20%22a%22%2C%20%22runLengthMin%22%3A%200%2C%20%22runLengthMax%22%3A%205%2C%20%22category%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22language%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22subtitle%22%3A%20%22%22%2C%20%22type%22%3A%20%22v%22%2C%20%22view%22%3A%20%22detail%22%2C%20%22numResults%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22display%22%3A%20%221110%22%2C%20%22veohOnly%22%3A%20true%2C%20%22offset%22%3A%2020%2C%20%22reset%22%3A%20false%2C%20%22searchId%22%3A%20%22354502406121955586%22%7D</a></p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
MediaMentions</p>
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