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	<title>Comments on: The Lying Liars Don&#8217;t Know How To Stop Lying! (UPDATED)</title>
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		<title>By: radical_Moderate</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42473</link>
		<dc:creator>radical_Moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole brou-ha-ha is making me sick. I can&#039;t even rouse myself to go over to some of the conservative sites I haunt and occasionally post a refutation of some sort of Obama bashing nonsense on. I thought, after the last 2 elections, not to mention what these same people tried to do to Bill Clinton in the &#039;90&#039;s, that I had a strong stomach for this bullshit, but I was wrong, and I am getting burnt out trying point out the bullshit to the unenlightened. Well you know what they say, when it comes to the American electorate, you don&#039;t always get the Government you need, but you surely get the Government you deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole brou-ha-ha is making me sick. I can&#8217;t even rouse myself to go over to some of the conservative sites I haunt and occasionally post a refutation of some sort of Obama bashing nonsense on. I thought, after the last 2 elections, not to mention what these same people tried to do to Bill Clinton in the &#8217;90&#8242;s, that I had a strong stomach for this bullshit, but I was wrong, and I am getting burnt out trying point out the bullshit to the unenlightened. Well you know what they say, when it comes to the American electorate, you don&#8217;t always get the Government you need, but you surely get the Government you deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Hijacking Truth &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hijacking Truth &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] change, that a pig wearing lipstick is still a pig, and whether he was calling Sarah Palin a pig (Kyle and others have ably debunked that one), the truly important things to know about McCain and Palin [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change, that a pig wearing lipstick is still a pig, and whether he was calling Sarah Palin a pig (Kyle and others have ably debunked that one), the truly important things to know about McCain and Palin [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42452</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I &#039;ve looked at a few news sites that would classify as MSM (ABC, Boston Globe, and, of all things, Fox News) and they ALL are reporting the comment, The McCain camp reaction, the Obama camp explanation, and the other incidents of McCain using that analogy. As opposed to the blogosphere, which is the main domain of hyper-inflated and shrill partisan opinion, it appears that the MSM manages to still do some responsible reporting of events. 

The primary people causing a ruckus are the partisan bloggers for McCain. Most people with common sense realise that Obama did not mean to connect that analogy to Palin. That would have been dumb to the nth power, to do so. Just like most people with common sense understand that McCain was joking about the middle-class making up to 5 Million dollars per year. Yet partisan bloggers will use it as fodder regardless.

Still, Obama could have served himself better with some quick self-editing of those words before saying them to avoid giving a false impression. That &quot;lipstick&quot; quote is one of the big sound-bite takeaways from Palin&#039;s speech. People are going to make a connection at some level between the two comments. Although I only saw the video one time, I kind of sensed from the volume of the crowd reaction to his comment that even a sizable portion of his audience was making that connection too. 

Sometimes perception trumps the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I &#8216;ve looked at a few news sites that would classify as MSM (ABC, Boston Globe, and, of all things, Fox News) and they ALL are reporting the comment, The McCain camp reaction, the Obama camp explanation, and the other incidents of McCain using that analogy. As opposed to the blogosphere, which is the main domain of hyper-inflated and shrill partisan opinion, it appears that the MSM manages to still do some responsible reporting of events. </p>
<p>The primary people causing a ruckus are the partisan bloggers for McCain. Most people with common sense realise that Obama did not mean to connect that analogy to Palin. That would have been dumb to the nth power, to do so. Just like most people with common sense understand that McCain was joking about the middle-class making up to 5 Million dollars per year. Yet partisan bloggers will use it as fodder regardless.</p>
<p>Still, Obama could have served himself better with some quick self-editing of those words before saying them to avoid giving a false impression. That &#8220;lipstick&#8221; quote is one of the big sound-bite takeaways from Palin&#8217;s speech. People are going to make a connection at some level between the two comments. Although I only saw the video one time, I kind of sensed from the volume of the crowd reaction to his comment that even a sizable portion of his audience was making that connection too. </p>
<p>Sometimes perception trumps the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42445</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you fucking high?

Seriously?

Are you fucking high?

You watch how much the media carries his water when the big news story tomorrow is how much of a sexist he is.  Get the fuck out of here, I&#039;m not kidding.  He was here in Virginia, we say shit like...

No...
why am I even bothering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you fucking high?</p>
<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>Are you fucking high?</p>
<p>You watch how much the media carries his water when the big news story tomorrow is how much of a sexist he is.  Get the fuck out of here, I&#8217;m not kidding.  He was here in Virginia, we say shit like&#8230;</p>
<p>No&#8230;<br />
why am I even bothering.</p>
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		<title>By: yarrr</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42444</link>
		<dc:creator>yarrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

    “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

Does anyone actually believe this wasn’t planned in advanced? It’s offensive and the point is to generate deniable outrage to hijack the narrative and put his own spin on the last news cycle. The media are carrying his water big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”</p>
<p>    “You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”</p>
<p>Does anyone actually believe this wasn’t planned in advanced? It’s offensive and the point is to generate deniable outrage to hijack the narrative and put his own spin on the last news cycle. The media are carrying his water big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42443</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No shit.</p>
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		<title>By: tas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has become to most retarded election in history.  Anytime I see news of it, I just want to drink and fucking punch somebody.  Seriously.  Issues aren&#039;t even discusses anymore, just this stupid gotcha bullshit over absolutely nothing.  I&#039;m so sick of this shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has become to most retarded election in history.  Anytime I see news of it, I just want to drink and fucking punch somebody.  Seriously.  Issues aren&#8217;t even discusses anymore, just this stupid gotcha bullshit over absolutely nothing.  I&#8217;m so sick of this shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Of Course John McCain Would Know What Is And Isn&#8217;t Sexist &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42441</link>
		<dc:creator>Of Course John McCain Would Know What Is And Isn&#8217;t Sexist &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: THE GUN TOTING LIBERAL™</title>
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		<dc:creator>THE GUN TOTING LIBERAL™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Él Presidenté &#8220;Wannabe&#8221; Señor J. Sidney McCain Now Squealing That Barry Obama Called Sarah Palin A &#8220;Peeg&#8221;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Señor McCain of Arizona Panama: &#8220;Dat monz, Barack Obama, dees mon&#8230; dees mon, he called Señora Sara Palin a &#8216;Peeg&#8217;, he deed!&#8221;
Ben Smith of The Politico is reporting our loveable &#8220;war hero&#8220;, Señor J. Sidney Mc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Él Presidenté &#8220;Wannabe&#8221; Señor J. Sidney McCain Now Squealing That Barry Obama Called Sarah Palin A &#8220;Peeg&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Señor McCain of Arizona Panama: &#8220;Dat monz, Barack Obama, dees mon&#8230; dees mon, he called Señora Sara Palin a &#8216;Peeg&#8217;, he deed!&#8221;<br />
Ben Smith of The Politico is reporting our loveable &#8220;war hero&#8220;, Señor J. Sidney Mc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/09/the-lying-liars-dont-know-how-to-stop-lying/comment-page-1#comment-42436</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&#8220;You can&#8217;t put lipstick on a pig&#8221; CRAZINESS!...&lt;/strong&gt;

There were time, when I was a wee lad, my father and I tried to make the messes we made in the garage (working on something) look better by scooting boxes around, throwing a sheet over an obscure hunk of metal, etc.  And I remember clear as day, my mot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;You can&#8217;t put lipstick on a pig&#8221; CRAZINESS!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There were time, when I was a wee lad, my father and I tried to make the messes we made in the garage (working on something) look better by scooting boxes around, throwing a sheet over an obscure hunk of metal, etc.  And I remember clear as day, my mot&#8230;</p>
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