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		<title>By: Jim Elliott`</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/abortion-is-a-constitutionally-guaranteed-right-that-should-be-decided-by-the-states/comment-page-1#comment-51437</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Elliott`</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are we a democracy or not? Do we believe in the 10th. amendment to the Consitution or not? It seems to me that the left is at its heart essentially anit-democratic. It seeks to imposwe its will on the whole of the population by judicial fiat, especially in that most radical court the 9th.&quot;

In response: No, we are NOT a democracy.  We are, in fact, a Representative Republic.  Quickly, quote the Pledge of Allegiance - &quot;...and to the Republic for which it stands.&quot;  Our forefathers had the wisdom to realize that democracies are doomed to failure because they are ruled by the passion of the mob rather than by law.  When the &quot;mob&quot;  imposing its will on others, to remove guaranteed rights, rule of law must be utilized to establish balance.  

Democracy cares little for the rights of the minority.  The idea that the US is a democracy has been inaccurately promoted by politicians and is a misconception of the masses.  We adhere to democratic principles, and we have SOME rights of democracy at work within our government, but we are not a Democracy.  

The left is not imposing its will on the whole of the population.  The converse of that is the fact.  The right is imposing its will on the whole of the population.  The left merely prefers not to have the will of the right imposed on it.  No one (in the right or the middle or the left) has to have an abortion, but when choice is removed (by the will of the right) the will of the right is imposed on all.  The left is not promoting abortion, merely leaving it to the choice of the individual.  The right, on the other hand (pun intended) insists on removing choice from all.  

Sarah Palin forgets that she &quot;chose&quot; not to have an abortion because she was guaranteed the right of choice.  She would remove that right from others.  To make this a states issue rather than a federal issue would remove rights that are Constitutionally guaranteed.  States do not have that power under the Constitution of the Republic of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are we a democracy or not? Do we believe in the 10th. amendment to the Consitution or not? It seems to me that the left is at its heart essentially anit-democratic. It seeks to imposwe its will on the whole of the population by judicial fiat, especially in that most radical court the 9th.&#8221;</p>
<p>In response: No, we are NOT a democracy.  We are, in fact, a Representative Republic.  Quickly, quote the Pledge of Allegiance &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;and to the Republic for which it stands.&#8221;  Our forefathers had the wisdom to realize that democracies are doomed to failure because they are ruled by the passion of the mob rather than by law.  When the &#8220;mob&#8221;  imposing its will on others, to remove guaranteed rights, rule of law must be utilized to establish balance.  </p>
<p>Democracy cares little for the rights of the minority.  The idea that the US is a democracy has been inaccurately promoted by politicians and is a misconception of the masses.  We adhere to democratic principles, and we have SOME rights of democracy at work within our government, but we are not a Democracy.  </p>
<p>The left is not imposing its will on the whole of the population.  The converse of that is the fact.  The right is imposing its will on the whole of the population.  The left merely prefers not to have the will of the right imposed on it.  No one (in the right or the middle or the left) has to have an abortion, but when choice is removed (by the will of the right) the will of the right is imposed on all.  The left is not promoting abortion, merely leaving it to the choice of the individual.  The right, on the other hand (pun intended) insists on removing choice from all.  </p>
<p>Sarah Palin forgets that she &#8220;chose&#8221; not to have an abortion because she was guaranteed the right of choice.  She would remove that right from others.  To make this a states issue rather than a federal issue would remove rights that are Constitutionally guaranteed.  States do not have that power under the Constitution of the Republic of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: jim escher</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim escher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roe is bad law. I am personally in favor of limited access to abortion. But it is wrong that the &quot;right&#039; has been codified by the Supreme Court. There is no Constitutional right to privacy and that is the basis of the flawed Roe V Wade decision.

The only way that this issue will cease being the divisive cudgel of our republic is to overturn Roe and return the decision of the availabilty of abortioin back to the several states which is where such issues are supposed to be decided according to the 10th. amendment ot the Constitution. The trouble with the left is that they are afraid to let democracy work on specific issues such as abortion. 

In the state of NY accesss to abortion would not change. But in Utah the citizens there may decide that it is their values the move to prohibit or at least, to limit the availability of the procedure. To the degree that the left in the form of such organizations as NOW and Planned Parenthood do not want to allow the states to decide this issue, this is the extent to whcih they as leftists do not trust the democratic way any thence the right of the people to decide, on a local level, as prescribed by the Constitutioin, whether or not a given state will allow or limit access to abortion. 

The trouble with left groups such as NOW is that at their heart they ar undemocratic groups. They want the courts to impose a fiat on the whole nation that imposes the will of a segment of society on the whole. The genius of our system is that such issues were deliberately to be left to the localities and not to be decided on a national level. Besides, Roe was decided on &quot;principles&quot; that were created out of whole cloth. The politics of the moment dictated the issuance of the Roe V Wade decision not Constitutional principles. 

If the left doesn&#039;t like something will it be satisfied to have any undemocraric method &quot;remedy&quot; what it sees as a problem. Why not just have the president issue order after order requiring the redistribution of wealth or that doctors and nurses be required ti work extra hours in poor clinics without pay for the good of the community. If the Supreme Court can make &quot;law&quot; out of whole cloth on one issue what is to stop it or the executive from doing it on a whole host of other concerns, all in the name of the good of the people

Does the left want a &quot;benign &quot; dictatorship that will &quot;remedy&quot; what it sees as society&#039;s ills or is it committed to the procedures that have been laid out by out Consitution? That document provides for the remdies of society&#039;s probelms without resort to coecion which is precisely what  Roe V Wade is and why the abortion issues will not go away. In states such as NY and California abortion is safe because the local population is  in favor of women having access to the procedure. In more conservative states, perhaps Utah or Idaho, it will be more difficult to obrain an abortion. But that is the price we pay for a federal system. Such a system provides for the localities, in this case, the states, to decide policy on such issues, much to the chagrin of the anti-democratic forces of the left. 

In my view, the left is perfectly happy to allow the democratic process work as long as the result is in theri favor. But if the decision goes against them the left seeks remedy in court fiats and eventually in presidential executive orders. In short, they are at hear anti-democratic and have total contempt for those with whom they disagree. To the left, the overturning of Roe would be turning the clock back. For me, it would be the first bit of sanity that had come over the Supreme Court in over 35 years. The reason that the Court nominations are so contentious is becasue of the bad decsion that is Roe. Once it is overturned then the political process of dealing with the issue can begin, the place where it always belonged. There is simply to wide a view on this issue for a central authority to hand down a decision on the subject.

Are we a democracy or not? Do we believe in the 10th. amendment to the Consitution or not? It seems to me that the left is at its heart essentially anit-democratic. It seeks to imposwe its will on the whole of the population by judicial fiat, especially in that most radical court the 9th. Circuit, that seems to think that it is the rightful substitue for the will of the people, the legislature. No matter how grave the issue, there is no excuse for the abrogation of the legislative prerogitives or the arogation of power as witnessed by the Supreme Court in the Roe V Wade decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roe is bad law. I am personally in favor of limited access to abortion. But it is wrong that the &#8220;right&#8217; has been codified by the Supreme Court. There is no Constitutional right to privacy and that is the basis of the flawed Roe V Wade decision.</p>
<p>The only way that this issue will cease being the divisive cudgel of our republic is to overturn Roe and return the decision of the availabilty of abortioin back to the several states which is where such issues are supposed to be decided according to the 10th. amendment ot the Constitution. The trouble with the left is that they are afraid to let democracy work on specific issues such as abortion. </p>
<p>In the state of NY accesss to abortion would not change. But in Utah the citizens there may decide that it is their values the move to prohibit or at least, to limit the availability of the procedure. To the degree that the left in the form of such organizations as NOW and Planned Parenthood do not want to allow the states to decide this issue, this is the extent to whcih they as leftists do not trust the democratic way any thence the right of the people to decide, on a local level, as prescribed by the Constitutioin, whether or not a given state will allow or limit access to abortion. </p>
<p>The trouble with left groups such as NOW is that at their heart they ar undemocratic groups. They want the courts to impose a fiat on the whole nation that imposes the will of a segment of society on the whole. The genius of our system is that such issues were deliberately to be left to the localities and not to be decided on a national level. Besides, Roe was decided on &#8220;principles&#8221; that were created out of whole cloth. The politics of the moment dictated the issuance of the Roe V Wade decision not Constitutional principles. </p>
<p>If the left doesn&#8217;t like something will it be satisfied to have any undemocraric method &#8220;remedy&#8221; what it sees as a problem. Why not just have the president issue order after order requiring the redistribution of wealth or that doctors and nurses be required ti work extra hours in poor clinics without pay for the good of the community. If the Supreme Court can make &#8220;law&#8221; out of whole cloth on one issue what is to stop it or the executive from doing it on a whole host of other concerns, all in the name of the good of the people</p>
<p>Does the left want a &#8220;benign &#8221; dictatorship that will &#8220;remedy&#8221; what it sees as society&#8217;s ills or is it committed to the procedures that have been laid out by out Consitution? That document provides for the remdies of society&#8217;s probelms without resort to coecion which is precisely what  Roe V Wade is and why the abortion issues will not go away. In states such as NY and California abortion is safe because the local population is  in favor of women having access to the procedure. In more conservative states, perhaps Utah or Idaho, it will be more difficult to obrain an abortion. But that is the price we pay for a federal system. Such a system provides for the localities, in this case, the states, to decide policy on such issues, much to the chagrin of the anti-democratic forces of the left. </p>
<p>In my view, the left is perfectly happy to allow the democratic process work as long as the result is in theri favor. But if the decision goes against them the left seeks remedy in court fiats and eventually in presidential executive orders. In short, they are at hear anti-democratic and have total contempt for those with whom they disagree. To the left, the overturning of Roe would be turning the clock back. For me, it would be the first bit of sanity that had come over the Supreme Court in over 35 years. The reason that the Court nominations are so contentious is becasue of the bad decsion that is Roe. Once it is overturned then the political process of dealing with the issue can begin, the place where it always belonged. There is simply to wide a view on this issue for a central authority to hand down a decision on the subject.</p>
<p>Are we a democracy or not? Do we believe in the 10th. amendment to the Consitution or not? It seems to me that the left is at its heart essentially anit-democratic. It seeks to imposwe its will on the whole of the population by judicial fiat, especially in that most radical court the 9th. Circuit, that seems to think that it is the rightful substitue for the will of the people, the legislature. No matter how grave the issue, there is no excuse for the abrogation of the legislative prerogitives or the arogation of power as witnessed by the Supreme Court in the Roe V Wade decision.</p>
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		<title>By: tas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Couric tried playing Gotcha Journalism! against Biden.  Errr, wait a second...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Couric tried playing Gotcha Journalism! against Biden.  Errr, wait a second&#8230;</p>
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