Comments on: Despite Low Expectations, Palin A Skilled Debater http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater Wed, 09 May 2012 10:28:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: From Fay To Z » Blog Archive » I’m going to blog straight to the American people http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater/comment-page-1#comment-43860 From Fay To Z » Blog Archive » I’m going to blog straight to the American people Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:56:30 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/?p=5491#comment-43860 [...] last night’s vice-presidential debate, her supporters called Sarah Palin a skilled debater. Her detractors wondered if she would [...] [...] last night’s vice-presidential debate, her supporters called Sarah Palin a skilled debater. Her detractors wondered if she would [...]

]]> By: Kyle E. Moore http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater/comment-page-1#comment-43587 Kyle E. Moore Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:08:29 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/?p=5491#comment-43587 corn-pone? Well, I think you're right except for one thing. I think if Palin brings up her son going to Iraq, if she plays that card, she plays it very unwisely as Biden's son just left for Iraq today as well. In other words, he may not have a trump card, but he does have a card to neutralize it. That, and Biden's not exactly seen as a radical liberal elitist either. I think he's got enough lunch bucket in him to appear, if not as folksy as Palin, at least folksy enough. I mean, I really don't know at this point. I don't think we're going to see Palin respond the way she did to Katie Couric during those god awful interviews. I think she is going to be charming, but you're dead right; will people be able to see beyond that, and a lot of that is going to be based on Joe. Does Joe have the ability to let Palin hang herself with her own rope? Given Biden's tendancy towards a prolific speaking style, he may not. corn-pone?

Well, I think you’re right except for one thing. I think if Palin brings up her son going to Iraq, if she plays that card, she plays it very unwisely as Biden’s son just left for Iraq today as well. In other words, he may not have a trump card, but he does have a card to neutralize it.

That, and Biden’s not exactly seen as a radical liberal elitist either. I think he’s got enough lunch bucket in him to appear, if not as folksy as Palin, at least folksy enough.

I mean, I really don’t know at this point. I don’t think we’re going to see Palin respond the way she did to Katie Couric during those god awful interviews. I think she is going to be charming, but you’re dead right; will people be able to see beyond that, and a lot of that is going to be based on Joe.

Does Joe have the ability to let Palin hang herself with her own rope? Given Biden’s tendancy towards a prolific speaking style, he may not.

]]> By: radical_Moderate http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater/comment-page-1#comment-43581 radical_Moderate Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:25:25 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/?p=5491#comment-43581 If the "Let Sarah be Sarah" movement has its way, then I expect to hear the sort of off topic, folksy answer as you quoted Kyle...I suppose the more often she can bring up her "charmingly," if off beat, named large brood, son on his way to Iraq, and rough neck husband as paragons of "Joe Sixpackism" the better showing she will make among some voters (low information, and those already pre-disposed to love "Our Sarah.") As for the rest of the electorate, I have great hope that they will see past the corn-pone to the cluelessness of Governor Palin, remember that the last 8 years of governance by a guy that Americans voted in because of his "rustic," and say "ENOUGH!" If the “Let Sarah be Sarah” movement has its way, then I expect to hear the sort of off topic, folksy answer as you quoted Kyle…I suppose the more often she can bring up her “charmingly,” if off beat, named large brood, son on his way to Iraq, and rough neck husband as paragons of “Joe Sixpackism” the better showing she will make among some voters (low information, and those already pre-disposed to love “Our Sarah.”) As for the rest of the electorate, I have great hope that they will see past the corn-pone to the cluelessness of Governor Palin, remember that the last 8 years of governance by a guy that Americans voted in because of his “rustic,” and say “ENOUGH!”

]]> By: Ace Armstrong http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater/comment-page-1#comment-43579 Ace Armstrong Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:07:58 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/?p=5491#comment-43579 Since Alaska has a population well under a million scattered over a vast landscape, I think the debate will give us some indication of the political reality there. As a resident of Montana I've noticed over the years that dissatisfied immigrant to our fair state who eventually leave will either return to where they came from or go to Alaska. And those that go to Alaska are the rugged individualist types who find Montana too compromising. So it comes as no surprise that a woman like Sarah Palen is successful in Alaska. When I hear her voice and watch the hand motions I think of her as an Alaskan version of the hip valley girl made good. The question of the debate will be if her act can pass muster on the national stage. If the look in Katie Couric's eyes during the interview are any indication, the Queen of the North has her work cut out for her. Since Alaska has a population well under a million scattered over a vast landscape, I think the debate will give us some indication of the political reality there.
As a resident of Montana I’ve noticed over the years that dissatisfied immigrant to our fair state who eventually leave will either return to where they came from or go to Alaska. And those that go to Alaska are the rugged individualist types who find Montana too compromising. So it comes as no surprise that a woman like Sarah Palen is successful in Alaska. When I hear her voice and watch the hand motions I think of her as an Alaskan version of the hip valley girl made good.
The question of the debate will be if her act can pass muster on the national stage. If the look in Katie Couric’s eyes during the interview are any indication, the Queen of the North has her work cut out for her.

]]> By: gcotharn http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/despite-low-expectations-palin-a-skilled-debater/comment-page-1#comment-43569 gcotharn Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:59:46 +0000 http://commentsfromleftfield.com/?p=5491#comment-43569 I contend we have reached a point where the right and left often dispute the basic facts which underlie a situation or an issue. Right and left do not merely dispute opinions about an issue, but also the foundational facts about the issue which ought - by all sanity and fairness and principles of civilization: be indisputable. This depresses me. We cannot be a civilization if we cannot agree that a tree is a tree. The tree thing is an exaggeration, but only a bit. Of everything you wrote in this post, I oddly keyed in on part of one sentence: <blockquote>Palin is almost the very essence of the modern Republican political star; one that aggressively refutes fact and substance as an asset</blockquote>Politics is a cynical game. However, Republican stars do not believe they are aggressively refuting fact. That you and Repub stars cannot agree about what constitutes fact is depressing. That I and Barney Frank and John Conyers and Henry Waxman cannot agree about what constitutes fact is depressing. That you and I ever disagree about underlying fact is depressing. I contend we have reached a point where the right and left often dispute the basic facts which underlie a situation or an issue. Right and left do not merely dispute opinions about an issue, but also the foundational facts about the issue which ought – by all sanity and fairness and principles of civilization: be indisputable. This depresses me. We cannot be a civilization if we cannot agree that a tree is a tree.

The tree thing is an exaggeration, but only a bit.

Of everything you wrote in this post, I oddly keyed in on part of one sentence:

Palin is almost the very essence of the modern Republican political star; one that aggressively refutes fact and substance as an asset

Politics is a cynical game. However, Republican stars do not believe they are aggressively refuting fact. That you and Repub stars cannot agree about what constitutes fact is depressing. That I and Barney Frank and John Conyers and Henry Waxman cannot agree about what constitutes fact is depressing. That you and I ever disagree about underlying fact is depressing.

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