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		<title>By: The Stench of Desperation (I am [not] Joe). &#124; Comments from Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Stench of Desperation (I am [not] Joe). &#124; Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and my personal favourite (pace the good Doctor), McCarthyism redux from Rep. Michele Bachmann:  WPvideo [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and my personal favourite (pace the good Doctor), McCarthyism redux from Rep. Michele Bachmann:  WPvideo [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DrGail</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/jumping-the-shark/comment-page-1#comment-45229</link>
		<dc:creator>DrGail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s evidence of the netroots at its very best:

At the time Michele Bachmann was spewing her stupid hate on Tweety&#039;s show yesterday, the ActBlue page for her challenger (Elwyn Tinklenberg) was standing at around $4000.  I checked it again a few moments ago, and it&#039;s now at $104,000.  That means that $100,000 was raised (just on ActBlue!) for him in a bit over twelve hours!

Go team!

(And yes, I kicked in some of my own money.  &lt;a href= &quot;http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Have you?&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s evidence of the netroots at its very best:</p>
<p>At the time Michele Bachmann was spewing her stupid hate on Tweety&#8217;s show yesterday, the ActBlue page for her challenger (Elwyn Tinklenberg) was standing at around $4000.  I checked it again a few moments ago, and it&#8217;s now at $104,000.  That means that $100,000 was raised (just on ActBlue!) for him in a bit over twelve hours!</p>
<p>Go team!</p>
<p>(And yes, I kicked in some of my own money.  <a href= "http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660" rel="nofollow">Have you?</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: tas</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/jumping-the-shark/comment-page-1#comment-45220</link>
		<dc:creator>tas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, I can&#039;t pick out the time when McCain &lt;i&gt;started&lt;/i&gt; jumping the shark..  I can&#039;t remember back that far.  I guess I&#039;m trying to think of when I lost all respect for him...  Because, believe it or not, I used to have some respect for him at some point in time.  It&#039;s hard to recall, but this is the same man who headed the Senate compromise against the Republicans who wanted to use the &quot;nuclear option&quot; to cancel Democrat filibusters in the Senate -- which would have historically changed the face of Senate debates as we know it.  And for the worse. 

But trying to quantify when McCain jumped the shark is a matter of trying to find the point where you just can&#039;t forgive his actions anymore.  I mean, Hillary jumped the shark plenty of times -- and I could make a post pointing out that her research into Ayers, for example, has been used by McCain.  Hence her campaign has hurt Obama in the general election -- except it hasn&#039;t.  Largely due to the utter tanking of the stock and credit markets.  Were the economy better we might be singing a different tune, but as is..  No matter what Hillary did during the primary, it wasn&#039;t enough to hurt Obama now; so she&#039;s forgivable.

As for Hillary&#039;s supporters, though...  Most of them are forgivable.  Even Talk Left (though I&#039;ll never causally read that site anymore).  But when SusanUnPC at NoQuarter &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/dear-susanunpc-got-your-white-hood-on&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;started relying on racists to defend Hillary&lt;/a&gt; in March, that was the point of no return for me.  There&#039;s no apology for that. 

So at what point are McCain&#039;s actions unforgivable?  I heard chatter on NPR about McCain thinking of his legacy at this pont, and how he won&#039;t attack Obama with Wright because he doesn&#039;t want to foster racism if Obama is going to be the first black president (which, as any objective look will tell you, that&#039;s in all likelihood right now).  Which could be considered honorable, but...

When did McCain cross the line of forgiveness?  Is it when &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/08/mccain-complete-ahole&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he attacked Obama for having a mansion&lt;/a&gt;?

Is it when &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/07/mccain-hearts-iran&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;we found out that one of his foreign policy advisors was connected to Iran&lt;/a&gt;?

Is it when &lt;a href=&quot;http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/obsession-is-not-a-new-perfume-but-it-sure-smells&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;persons unknown distributed the &quot;Obsession&quot; DVD to 28 million voters in swing states&lt;/a&gt;, while at the same time the McCain campaign tried painting Obama as a terrorist? 

Or is it when McCain and Palin rallies became hate filled mobs and neither candidate seemed to give a shit if their supporters were shouting things about Obama like &quot;TREASON!&quot; or &quot;KILL HIM!!&quot; ?

In fact, all of these are good starting points.

Any way you look at this, and no matter what you choose -- whether it&#039;s a point I listed or something you think I omitted (which, I assure you, is by accident), McCain has crossed the point of forgiveness.  He&#039;s jumped the shark, and for doing such he deserves to be punished.  This isn&#039;t the same man who led a bipartisan group of senators to keep Senate filibuster privileges in tact and I, for one, well never trust him again.  He&#039;s not a maverick, he&#039;s just another fucking wingnut now.  

So instead of asking where&#039;s the point that McCain jumped the shark, a better question might be does it even matter anymore?  The dude has fucked up much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I can&#8217;t pick out the time when McCain <i>started</i> jumping the shark..  I can&#8217;t remember back that far.  I guess I&#8217;m trying to think of when I lost all respect for him&#8230;  Because, believe it or not, I used to have some respect for him at some point in time.  It&#8217;s hard to recall, but this is the same man who headed the Senate compromise against the Republicans who wanted to use the &#8220;nuclear option&#8221; to cancel Democrat filibusters in the Senate &#8212; which would have historically changed the face of Senate debates as we know it.  And for the worse. </p>
<p>But trying to quantify when McCain jumped the shark is a matter of trying to find the point where you just can&#8217;t forgive his actions anymore.  I mean, Hillary jumped the shark plenty of times &#8212; and I could make a post pointing out that her research into Ayers, for example, has been used by McCain.  Hence her campaign has hurt Obama in the general election &#8212; except it hasn&#8217;t.  Largely due to the utter tanking of the stock and credit markets.  Were the economy better we might be singing a different tune, but as is..  No matter what Hillary did during the primary, it wasn&#8217;t enough to hurt Obama now; so she&#8217;s forgivable.</p>
<p>As for Hillary&#8217;s supporters, though&#8230;  Most of them are forgivable.  Even Talk Left (though I&#8217;ll never causally read that site anymore).  But when SusanUnPC at NoQuarter <a href="http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/03/dear-susanunpc-got-your-white-hood-on" rel="nofollow">started relying on racists to defend Hillary</a> in March, that was the point of no return for me.  There&#8217;s no apology for that. </p>
<p>So at what point are McCain&#8217;s actions unforgivable?  I heard chatter on NPR about McCain thinking of his legacy at this pont, and how he won&#8217;t attack Obama with Wright because he doesn&#8217;t want to foster racism if Obama is going to be the first black president (which, as any objective look will tell you, that&#8217;s in all likelihood right now).  Which could be considered honorable, but&#8230;</p>
<p>When did McCain cross the line of forgiveness?  Is it when <a href="http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/08/mccain-complete-ahole" rel="nofollow">he attacked Obama for having a mansion</a>?</p>
<p>Is it when <a href="http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/07/mccain-hearts-iran" rel="nofollow">we found out that one of his foreign policy advisors was connected to Iran</a>?</p>
<p>Is it when <a href="http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/obsession-is-not-a-new-perfume-but-it-sure-smells" rel="nofollow">persons unknown distributed the &#8220;Obsession&#8221; DVD to 28 million voters in swing states</a>, while at the same time the McCain campaign tried painting Obama as a terrorist? </p>
<p>Or is it when McCain and Palin rallies became hate filled mobs and neither candidate seemed to give a shit if their supporters were shouting things about Obama like &#8220;TREASON!&#8221; or &#8220;KILL HIM!!&#8221; ?</p>
<p>In fact, all of these are good starting points.</p>
<p>Any way you look at this, and no matter what you choose &#8212; whether it&#8217;s a point I listed or something you think I omitted (which, I assure you, is by accident), McCain has crossed the point of forgiveness.  He&#8217;s jumped the shark, and for doing such he deserves to be punished.  This isn&#8217;t the same man who led a bipartisan group of senators to keep Senate filibuster privileges in tact and I, for one, well never trust him again.  He&#8217;s not a maverick, he&#8217;s just another fucking wingnut now.  </p>
<p>So instead of asking where&#8217;s the point that McCain jumped the shark, a better question might be does it even matter anymore?  The dude has fucked up much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DrGail</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/jumping-the-shark/comment-page-1#comment-45206</link>
		<dc:creator>DrGail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, you folks are both so right!  My professional training included a strong inclination to withhold judgment until such time as the conclusion was inescapable, and somehow Michele Bachmann suggesting another witchhunt (excuse me:  McCarthy HUAC investigation) put this one over the top for me.

icruise:  there HAS been massive incompetence in McCain&#039;s campaign.  It&#039;s been quite stunning to watch, especially since -- for once -- it hasn&#039;t been on our side.  Perhaps we learned our lesson with the Swiftboat Veterans Against Kerry (or whatever they ended up being called), but I&#039;m sure that Obama&#039;s cool political savvy has been a huge factor in showing us the way out of the wilderness.

Let&#039;s all hope that the Republicans stay in the wilderness themselves for many years to come; there&#039;s a lot of cleaning up we need to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, you folks are both so right!  My professional training included a strong inclination to withhold judgment until such time as the conclusion was inescapable, and somehow Michele Bachmann suggesting another witchhunt (excuse me:  McCarthy HUAC investigation) put this one over the top for me.</p>
<p>icruise:  there HAS been massive incompetence in McCain&#8217;s campaign.  It&#8217;s been quite stunning to watch, especially since &#8212; for once &#8212; it hasn&#8217;t been on our side.  Perhaps we learned our lesson with the Swiftboat Veterans Against Kerry (or whatever they ended up being called), but I&#8217;m sure that Obama&#8217;s cool political savvy has been a huge factor in showing us the way out of the wilderness.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s all hope that the Republicans stay in the wilderness themselves for many years to come; there&#8217;s a lot of cleaning up we need to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/10/jumping-the-shark/comment-page-1#comment-45204</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His campaign jumped the shark when he suspended it.

Probably never should have got it up and going again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His campaign jumped the shark when he suspended it.</p>
<p>Probably never should have got it up and going again.</p>
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		<title>By: icruise</title>
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		<dc:creator>icruise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly I think McCain&#039;s campaign has been one shark jump after another. Just when you think it can&#039;t get any worse, it does. I&#039;m not even talking about the negativity so much as the pure incompetence. They are comically inept. Every single one of his &quot;game changers&quot; has ended up backfiring. It&#039;s really quite astonishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly I think McCain&#8217;s campaign has been one shark jump after another. Just when you think it can&#8217;t get any worse, it does. I&#8217;m not even talking about the negativity so much as the pure incompetence. They are comically inept. Every single one of his &#8220;game changers&#8221; has ended up backfiring. It&#8217;s really quite astonishing.</p>
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