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	<title>Comments on: Carved Up: Black Women and Bodily Integrity</title>
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		<title>By: BraystreetLad</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/11/carved-up-black-women-and-bodily-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-47995</link>
		<dc:creator>BraystreetLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FULLNESS OF HER BODY??????Another black woman who justifies being 5&#039;4&#039;&#039;,250+ lb.by cal-
ling herself &quot;full-figured&quot;(translation:FAT.)For the record,I&#039;m a classically handsome black lad(55,
but said to look 15-20  years younger)and I judge EVERY babe by her bra size.GET OVER YOUR
ARROGANT SELVES,PLUS SIZED BLACK CHICKS!!!!!</description>
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ling herself &#8220;full-figured&#8221;(translation:FAT.)For the record,I&#8217;m a classically handsome black lad(55,<br />
but said to look 15-20  years younger)and I judge EVERY babe by her bra size.GET OVER YOUR<br />
ARROGANT SELVES,PLUS SIZED BLACK CHICKS!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/11/carved-up-black-women-and-bodily-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-47015</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, most definitely agreed.  I was listening to one black comic on the radio yesterday who said, &quot;We&#039;ll have finally evened the playing field when you can&#039;t say cracker or honkey on the radio just like you can&#039;t say anything else.&quot;  He was joking, of course, but underneath the humor there was a point.  The larger point being that yes, this election spoke volumes, but there are exponentially more volumes left to be written.  The smaller point is that white privelege, and male privelege (which wasn&#039;t part of his point, but I&#039;ll throw it in anyway) still exists.

I don&#039;t expect to see an end to racism or sexism in my life time, but I think we&#039;ll continue to move forward, slowly, often times painfully.  It goes beyond just the mere establishment of a part of the vernacular as taboo, far beyond, and will involve a cultural and social evolution that will have to center around shifting the common further and further into the extreme until it is pushed off the map completely.

But this is a momentous step, and one that I think will have ripple effects for generations to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, most definitely agreed.  I was listening to one black comic on the radio yesterday who said, &#8220;We&#8217;ll have finally evened the playing field when you can&#8217;t say cracker or honkey on the radio just like you can&#8217;t say anything else.&#8221;  He was joking, of course, but underneath the humor there was a point.  The larger point being that yes, this election spoke volumes, but there are exponentially more volumes left to be written.  The smaller point is that white privelege, and male privelege (which wasn&#8217;t part of his point, but I&#8217;ll throw it in anyway) still exists.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect to see an end to racism or sexism in my life time, but I think we&#8217;ll continue to move forward, slowly, often times painfully.  It goes beyond just the mere establishment of a part of the vernacular as taboo, far beyond, and will involve a cultural and social evolution that will have to center around shifting the common further and further into the extreme until it is pushed off the map completely.</p>
<p>But this is a momentous step, and one that I think will have ripple effects for generations to come.</p>
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		<title>By: SylviaM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SylviaM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone for the supportive comments!  I appreciate it.  :) 

Hehe, rawdawg, it is that serious.  I&#039;m sick of seeing this happen whenever a woman of color accomplishes something.  

I think I know the article you&#039;re talking about, Kyle, and I don&#039;t necessarily agree with the comic&#039;s viewpoint that the Obama presidency will forever change how people view black Americans or how black Americans view themselves.  It will perhaps place things into a lot more perspective and make incidences like these glaring.  But we have a lot more changes to implement culturally, beyond just a symbolic and historic election, to really root out the racism and sexism that goes on daily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for the supportive comments!  I appreciate it.  <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Hehe, rawdawg, it is that serious.  I&#8217;m sick of seeing this happen whenever a woman of color accomplishes something.  </p>
<p>I think I know the article you&#8217;re talking about, Kyle, and I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with the comic&#8217;s viewpoint that the Obama presidency will forever change how people view black Americans or how black Americans view themselves.  It will perhaps place things into a lot more perspective and make incidences like these glaring.  But we have a lot more changes to implement culturally, beyond just a symbolic and historic election, to really root out the racism and sexism that goes on daily.</p>
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		<title>By: WitnessLA.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bummed Out: The Complicated Politics of Rear Views</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/11/carved-up-black-women-and-bodily-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-46980</link>
		<dc:creator>WitnessLA.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bummed Out: The Complicated Politics of Rear Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a twenty-something black woman who blogs as Sylvia M. at Comments From Left Field found herself quite upset by the Salon article:  Do not, do not, do NOT [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kyle E. Moore</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2008/11/carved-up-black-women-and-bodily-integrity/comment-page-1#comment-46940</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle E. Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Sylvia, great start!

I don&#039;t usually participate much in the comments section of posts, but this really did strike a chord in me, and had me instantly thinking about something Chris Matthews had said.

It was right after Obama ran his thirty minute ad spot, and after some of the commentary Chris Matthews went in to full on rant mode and was talking about people who weren&#039;t going to vote for Obama based on race, finally building to a crescendo of, &quot;What more do you want?!&quot;

I know it&#039;s a little different, but there&#039;s a common thread here; one that also ties in with what a COC (comic of color) recently said; I can&#039;t remember his name.  That being that President Obama will likely have a serious affect on black humor because the kinds of routines that many African American stand up comics use tend to play off of these similar black cultural idiosyncracies, and with the election of a Obama it&#039;s likely that you&#039;re going to have a lot of people stand up and say, &quot;That&#039;s not us!&quot;

I guess what I&#039;m getting at is this same rant from Chris Matthews, and the point you&#039;re making as well.  This is a highly educated woman who will in sixty-two days be our first lady, can we finally dispense with any kind of talk about whether her ass is suitably big enough to be stereotypically black?  It was never right to begin with, but the Obamas have done everything they possibly could to not be objectified and codified according to racial and gender based stereotypes; what more do some of these people want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Sylvia, great start!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t usually participate much in the comments section of posts, but this really did strike a chord in me, and had me instantly thinking about something Chris Matthews had said.</p>
<p>It was right after Obama ran his thirty minute ad spot, and after some of the commentary Chris Matthews went in to full on rant mode and was talking about people who weren&#8217;t going to vote for Obama based on race, finally building to a crescendo of, &#8220;What more do you want?!&#8221;</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s a little different, but there&#8217;s a common thread here; one that also ties in with what a COC (comic of color) recently said; I can&#8217;t remember his name.  That being that President Obama will likely have a serious affect on black humor because the kinds of routines that many African American stand up comics use tend to play off of these similar black cultural idiosyncracies, and with the election of a Obama it&#8217;s likely that you&#8217;re going to have a lot of people stand up and say, &#8220;That&#8217;s not us!&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m getting at is this same rant from Chris Matthews, and the point you&#8217;re making as well.  This is a highly educated woman who will in sixty-two days be our first lady, can we finally dispense with any kind of talk about whether her ass is suitably big enough to be stereotypically black?  It was never right to begin with, but the Obamas have done everything they possibly could to not be objectified and codified according to racial and gender based stereotypes; what more do some of these people want?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome piece, Sylvia. I love your writing style. Hip and colorful and irreverent. Keep it up, and welcome aboard. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome piece, Sylvia. I love your writing style. Hip and colorful and irreverent. Keep it up, and welcome aboard. <img src='http://commentsfromleftfield.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rawdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rawdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 16:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, is it really that serious</description>
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		<title>By: tas</title>
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		<dc:creator>tas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great first contribution, Sulvia..  Happy to see you around, reminding me why I stopped reading Salon.  It&#039;s the so-called hip pop culture writers how are really the worst.  Here&#039;s a hip pop culture article: &quot;I made a stupid observation!  Watch me drool about it for 20 paragraphs.&quot;  There, I just wrote every pop culture story Salon ever published; now I want my paycheck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great first contribution, Sulvia..  Happy to see you around, reminding me why I stopped reading Salon.  It&#8217;s the so-called hip pop culture writers how are really the worst.  Here&#8217;s a hip pop culture article: &#8220;I made a stupid observation!  Watch me drool about it for 20 paragraphs.&#8221;  There, I just wrote every pop culture story Salon ever published; now I want my paycheck.</p>
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		<title>By: Fausta&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Salon hits rock bottom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fausta&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Salon hits rock bottom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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