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		<title>By: BlueDogDemocrat</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2009/11/playing-politics-with-lives/comment-page-1#comment-53888</link>
		<dc:creator>BlueDogDemocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow tas, this post is one of your most naive and uninformed.  You may wonder if Obamba would have authorized the Iraq War ... I wonder too, this War is very controversial.  But more importantly I wonder if Obamba would have voted to take out the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan ... they openly supported and sheltered Bin Laden, the source for 9/11

Second, it is ONLY tax cuts and more money in people&#039;s pockets which create jobs.  More money going to the Government stifles growth and job creation.  I really wonder where you get your information, only a partisan regressive person could ignore the impact of tax cuts on our economy.  Every time its been tried, on a large scale, massive job creation ensued ... JFK did it, Reagan did it, Even Clinton did it (Cap Gains) and Bush 2 did it ... the tax cuts were followed by MORE revenue to the Treasury and MORE jobs.  These facts are not in contention, besides, its just common sense.  Where&#039;s your evidence that higher taxes create jobs tas??  Basically the less money people have available to spend, the fewer jobs can be created.  Your mentality here is so sub-level 101 I really don&#039;t know where to begin.

FDR was never able to spend us out of the Great Depression, what makes you think Obamba can??  Where are all these created or saved jobs??  What happens to these jobs when the stimulus money runs out??  Private Enterprise creates real jobs, not Government.

Also of note:  Obama said he would get OBL where ever he was hiding, including Pakistan!!  If anyone indicated a willingness to set off Pakistan it was Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow tas, this post is one of your most naive and uninformed.  You may wonder if Obamba would have authorized the Iraq War &#8230; I wonder too, this War is very controversial.  But more importantly I wonder if Obamba would have voted to take out the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan &#8230; they openly supported and sheltered Bin Laden, the source for 9/11</p>
<p>Second, it is ONLY tax cuts and more money in people&#8217;s pockets which create jobs.  More money going to the Government stifles growth and job creation.  I really wonder where you get your information, only a partisan regressive person could ignore the impact of tax cuts on our economy.  Every time its been tried, on a large scale, massive job creation ensued &#8230; JFK did it, Reagan did it, Even Clinton did it (Cap Gains) and Bush 2 did it &#8230; the tax cuts were followed by MORE revenue to the Treasury and MORE jobs.  These facts are not in contention, besides, its just common sense.  Where&#8217;s your evidence that higher taxes create jobs tas??  Basically the less money people have available to spend, the fewer jobs can be created.  Your mentality here is so sub-level 101 I really don&#8217;t know where to begin.</p>
<p>FDR was never able to spend us out of the Great Depression, what makes you think Obamba can??  Where are all these created or saved jobs??  What happens to these jobs when the stimulus money runs out??  Private Enterprise creates real jobs, not Government.</p>
<p>Also of note:  Obama said he would get OBL where ever he was hiding, including Pakistan!!  If anyone indicated a willingness to set off Pakistan it was Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: radical_moderate</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2009/11/playing-politics-with-lives/comment-page-1#comment-53887</link>
		<dc:creator>radical_moderate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;but I don’t believe she would have been so willing to compromise on health-care reform just to get a Republican vote or two in the Senate&quot;

Which is exactly WHY she failed to get Healthcare reform passed in the &#039;90&#039;s when she headed up President Clinton&#039;s task force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but I don’t believe she would have been so willing to compromise on health-care reform just to get a Republican vote or two in the Senate&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is exactly WHY she failed to get Healthcare reform passed in the &#8217;90&#8242;s when she headed up President Clinton&#8217;s task force.</p>
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		<title>By: Infidel753</title>
		<link>http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2009/11/playing-politics-with-lives/comment-page-1#comment-53886</link>
		<dc:creator>Infidel753</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with Gcotharn.  During the primaries Obama always struck me as much less of a principled left-winger than Hillary was.  I expected him to be too busy compromising with the Republicans in the name of bipartisanship fantasies to actually accomplish much change, and that&#039;s exactly what has happened.

I have no idea what President Hillary would have done about Afghanistan, but I don&#039;t believe she would have been so willing to compromise on health-care reform just to get a Republican vote or two in the Senate

For links on the CRU global-warming e-mails, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://infidel753.blogspot.com/2009/11/self-pwning-wingnut.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Gcotharn.  During the primaries Obama always struck me as much less of a principled left-winger than Hillary was.  I expected him to be too busy compromising with the Republicans in the name of bipartisanship fantasies to actually accomplish much change, and that&#8217;s exactly what has happened.</p>
<p>I have no idea what President Hillary would have done about Afghanistan, but I don&#8217;t believe she would have been so willing to compromise on health-care reform just to get a Republican vote or two in the Senate</p>
<p>For links on the CRU global-warming e-mails, see <a href="http://infidel753.blogspot.com/2009/11/self-pwning-wingnut.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueDogDemocrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueDogDemocrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to change the subject .. but since people on here only read Regressive blogs like the Daily Kos, or Common Dweems .. I&#039;m afraid you may not know that Global Warming has been debunked  ... fraught with purposeful lies and fraud at the highest scientific and political levels ... rather than attack the hackers, we should read what they uncovered about the Global Warming Hoax ...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to change the subject .. but since people on here only read Regressive blogs like the Daily Kos, or Common Dweems .. I&#8217;m afraid you may not know that Global Warming has been debunked  &#8230; fraught with purposeful lies and fraud at the highest scientific and political levels &#8230; rather than attack the hackers, we should read what they uncovered about the Global Warming Hoax &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/</a></p>
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		<title>By: gcotharn</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcotharn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I expected better from Obama.&quot;

Why?  I assume you expected better b/c you looked at Sen. Obama and you perceived talent.  Yet, the &lt;i&gt;perceived talent&lt;/i&gt; was unaccompanied by accomplishment in life. 

In sports, &quot;potential&quot; will kill a team every time.  Obama may as well be a QB whom everyone thinks has great potential, yet whom has never been a winner, and who thence QBs the team to a losing record.  The other QB - the one with moderate talent, yet with a track record of gritty victories - would have been a better choice for the team.  &quot;Potential&quot; kills a team every time.  &lt;i&gt;Perceived talent&lt;/i&gt; ought be accompanied by some record of success.

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You mentioned that Obama, as a state senator from Hyde Park, was antiwar.  In actuality, the political power in Hyde Park informed Obama that &quot;a state senator from Hyde Park MUST be antiwar&quot; - whereupon Obama declared himself against the War; before later (after the success of the Iraq invasion) declaring himself for the Iraq invasion, saying:  &quot;There is little difference between Pres. Bush and myself on Iraq&quot;; before again - in a frenzied effort to get to the left of Hillary - declaring himself to be far more against the war than she was.  Which is to say: your belief that Obama&#039;s Iraq stances represented evidence that he would not play politics represented an instance where you lacked full information about a circumstance.  

I blame media and left side blogs.  You are a decently informed person.  Media and left side blogs had to work to hide the true information about Obama and Iraq from you.  They succeeded.  Their actions were detestable, and you are now paying the price via being governed by a Pres. Obama who, during the campaign, played you for a chump; and who is still trying to play you for a chump.  You and I disagree about lots of stuff, yet neither of us appreciates being played.  Pres. Obama is playing both of us for chumps - you on his left and me on his right.  He&#039;s a con man.  The question is: will we wake up and smell the coffee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I expected better from Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?  I assume you expected better b/c you looked at Sen. Obama and you perceived talent.  Yet, the <i>perceived talent</i> was unaccompanied by accomplishment in life. </p>
<p>In sports, &#8220;potential&#8221; will kill a team every time.  Obama may as well be a QB whom everyone thinks has great potential, yet whom has never been a winner, and who thence QBs the team to a losing record.  The other QB &#8211; the one with moderate talent, yet with a track record of gritty victories &#8211; would have been a better choice for the team.  &#8220;Potential&#8221; kills a team every time.  <i>Perceived talent</i> ought be accompanied by some record of success.</p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>You mentioned that Obama, as a state senator from Hyde Park, was antiwar.  In actuality, the political power in Hyde Park informed Obama that &#8220;a state senator from Hyde Park MUST be antiwar&#8221; &#8211; whereupon Obama declared himself against the War; before later (after the success of the Iraq invasion) declaring himself for the Iraq invasion, saying:  &#8220;There is little difference between Pres. Bush and myself on Iraq&#8221;; before again &#8211; in a frenzied effort to get to the left of Hillary &#8211; declaring himself to be far more against the war than she was.  Which is to say: your belief that Obama&#8217;s Iraq stances represented evidence that he would not play politics represented an instance where you lacked full information about a circumstance.  </p>
<p>I blame media and left side blogs.  You are a decently informed person.  Media and left side blogs had to work to hide the true information about Obama and Iraq from you.  They succeeded.  Their actions were detestable, and you are now paying the price via being governed by a Pres. Obama who, during the campaign, played you for a chump; and who is still trying to play you for a chump.  You and I disagree about lots of stuff, yet neither of us appreciates being played.  Pres. Obama is playing both of us for chumps &#8211; you on his left and me on his right.  He&#8217;s a con man.  The question is: will we wake up and smell the coffee?</p>
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